other firms, the sub firms and directing them he would be responsible and i have talked to andrew sharltz at shoop and hail and he he is also. >> >> hailey and he is perfectly willing to be the true counsel and understands that the scope of general counsel would include choosing and directing other firms to do the specialty work, so we're going to have to make a decision here and each of these -- both san francisco city attorneys made it clear they want off if they're not completely on, and the shoop and hailey firm is perfectly willing to be appointed in their stead if that's what we want, so i think at some point in the next few meetings at least we're going to have to meet and decide who we want to be our legal counsel, and i haven't talked to nila about -- i don't know whether it can be done in closed session or whether it has to be done in open session. there are no employees involved but at the same time it's very personnel oriented so i will look for that and with respect to this item what i just want to make sure this is fine. we definitely need some more money in the budget to do