and they are sharmain matlock-turner, a nonprofit executive.hank you so much for being with us, sharmain. ed turzanski, foreign-policy analyst. welcome back to you as well, ed. nelson diaz, attorney. good morning, sir. and val digiorgio, gop state official. val, always good to have you here as well. >> good to be here. >> an interesting twist last week. it was finally the end of this case against the pennsylvania former attorney general kathleen kane. she was sentenced to actual jail time. that surprised some folks. others thought she should have gotten more than 10 to 23 months behind bars. she's out on bail currently and plans to appeal, she says. but this case of perjury and abuse of power, which she was convicted of, will that impact the next attorney general? in other words, are people in the state of pennsylvania so disheartened by the continuing corruption issues that they will vote one way or the other based on running against corruption? what do you think? >> well, i think certainly it's an issue. and i think -- but neither of the two