sharon malone. >> exactly, and you know them, as well. i think she did that but at the very last time, the last senator questions her pointing out that mr. holder is not there to defend himself and taking below zero. there was a little defense of attorney general holder just before we came out. >> did you see anything that surprised you anything that would indicate that washington is going to change her or that she is going to change washington? >> no. i did note at some when she was talking about her relationship with congress and the committee she talked having a new and improved relationship. obviously that wasn't anything said specifically -- >> in fact she has to deal with a republican and the president. >> i think it's been very smooth sailing for her thus far as we talked about at the beginning. i've been through a lot of these hearings both as a journalist and when i worked in the white house, she seems comfortable in the chair. didn't seem shaken even by the tough questions from senator sessions. i think she'll come back after th