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. >> neil: i know you were meeting with him with your senator, sharrod brown.'s been some friction between some prominent democrats and the president on this issue. the protests obviously were very real in dayton. very real in el paso. many argue that he shouldn't even be there, he shouldn't have gone to dayton and shouldn't have been in el paso. are you glad he came? >> i think for the victims and for our first responders. they were happy to see him. they've been through a lot. but neil, it's hard on the community. the minute he announced he was coming we saw this hyper partisan ship that we didn't see before. we've been through a lot of pain that tension was real. we saw it on the streets of the oregon district earlier today. we didn't see any of that until the president's announcement. it's so extreme and so intense. in ohio, with both congressman turner and governor dewine, we're starting to see real people -- both sides come together to find win-win solutions around the gun violence community. i wish nationally they could do it. >> neil: you think the extr