in the end, we got it. editor shashankjoshi.editor shashankjoshi. welcome back to the programme. a quick question on the landmines first of all? it a quick question on the landmines first of all? it is a re eat landmines first of all? it is a repeat of— landmines first of all? it is a repeat of the _ landmines first of all? it is a repeat of the debate - landmines first of all? it is a repeat of the debate we - landmines first of all? it is a repeat of the debate we had i repeat of the debate we had last year when the americans provided to cluster munitions because they are small cluster bumps that can remain on the ground for long periods. it was very clear that they would have an obvious military utility for ukraine and it was also clear that many european allies understood that, but it was very diplomatically awkward because over 160 countries are signatories to the conventions that ban these things so they couldn't publicly support the american move. i suspect we have the same dynamic now, many countries will be saying it is