the shasta indians put on a salmon ceremony, as well--i'll say the third salmon ceremony-- so then everybody from that point down can fish, so that is a very dramatic way of managing your fishery. it allows for your progeny of the run to make it to the headwaters. that means that all the fish between, before you see that first salmon, they make it all the way to the headwaters, or they can get out past you. then we can start fishing. the other traditional knowledge part of that is that you don't fish the heads of the run or the tails of the run. you fish the body of the run. a good year, we catch up to 2,000 fish. the bad year, we catch less than a hundred. we're the second largest tribe in california, with over 4,000 tribal members, so we're not even catching a fish per person. we're not even getting a half of fish per person, so it's very demeaning to the fishermen that come down here when there's a bad fish run, when there's drought, when there's all different things. it's a matter of trying to figure out how do you subside for, you know, your people. charley: 1905 was the time of the dam