we asked shaun harris to come on the program tonight, he said no, but he did sit down with cnn's david mattingly after his sermon on saturday. >> give him a good punch, squash like a cockroach, crack that wrist. what exactly were you telling your congregation to do here. >> i was telling them in strong words that we're not careful. what did i learn this week? be more careful with your words. >> harris says he became the target of angry, hateful messages filled wi ed wited wit and multiple death threats after telling parents how to deal with children and feminine behavior. >> i would say straighten that wrist. >> what about the punch remark? >> it's amazing how punch has been equated to inciting violence against gay youth. that's not what i meant. >> when you said give him a good punch, what exactly did you mean? >> a shove, an affirmation, you see coaches give their blares a good punch, a good slug, it's away of affirming the gender distinctions between a male and a female. >> harris preaches a biblical interpretation at the berean baptist church in fayetteville that homosexuality is a