and shaun donovan at 11:30 a.m. erik: i'm excited about this incredible -- we were talking to betty about it, the combination of people an event like this draws together and the kinds of ideas and combinations it produces. the risk-taking dna that michael -- you have the risk-taking did i get michael milken as to dress: -- as to drexel, plus we will be speaking to some interesting public policy types currently serving in government or academia. it makes for a heady mix, but we will have great conversations right here. stephanie: but also, if you think about what the milken conference is about it's not just about hedge fund investing or health and well-being, not about policies. it really is changing influencers, coming in to talk about what their next chapter will be. and especially in public-private ownerships. we have seen a tremendous amount of gridlock in washington. erik: it is starting to thaw a little bit. stephanie: starting to thaw and in large part due to investors stepping in. we talked to one in detroit

right now, cliff robbins and stephen schwarzman as well as shaun donovan will be a few on our programanie ruhle started on this last night. what is the scene there? stephanie: i will ask sean the hard questions. he was in d.c. and now here he is in l.a.. we will get to him bright and early with his -- with the hard stuff, because maybe he will be off his game. error: --erik: you are tempted to compare it to dock is because it is investors and academic types, but what makes different is the weather is better and it's infused with the risk-taking dna of drexel burnham. that is where mike milken came from. a lot of his former colleagues from drexel, leon black for example, we saw him last night. it makes a big difference. stephanie: rich candler from leucadia group is here. sitting down with these investors, the kind of men and women who like to take big risks and put all their chips on the table, that is kind of what is in their dna. i feel like last night was old home week for these guys where they are taking down huge investments in greece, buying sports teams. they are not afraid to