shaun, shaun authorities, issue and emergency at the southwest prepares for what could be one of the strongest storms to ever hit the region. with less than an hour to go until the paralympic games kick off, paris counts as progress toward making the city fully accessible. though some very deep obstacles are made. the welcome to the program. i'm nicole fairly, at least 10 palestinians have been killed in a large scale sir, is a raised and strikes carried out by is really forces in the occupied westbank. israel's foreign ministers, as the operations are designed to ford, a rainy and islam is terrorist infrastructure in the northern westbank is really forces have also sealed off the city of jeanine, according to its mayor, tearing up roads as they come is really, soldiers have descended on refugee camps, villages and cities across the north of the occupied west bank. according to israel's foreign minister, these troops have gone in to destroy the tara infrastructure. while israel has been carrying out near daily rate since the mass october 7th terrorist attacks. this operation seems to be significantly larger x, but say it's the 1st time since 2005 that is really false is attacked in so many places. at once. in the west bank the city of jeanine law known as the militant stronghold, is one of the focuses of the raids protest city and immediate says that his radius troops here have sealed off several roads and blocked access to medical facilities . by building a barrier is in the streets. israel has been attacking from the air as well, carrying out drain strikes on targets, including this call that was hit near janine the as riley army released this footage of another strike from the football refugee camp that it said killed 4 militants. this man was wounded in that attack, which he said killed his family members. the society between the, my wife asked me what happened. i told her and asked her to go and check on the children on the rooftop and after the lot, when long as you move that to the rooftop, she found the 3 of our children late 2 weeks ago, but my they rest in peace. one was injured that they took into the hospital and hopefully he'll be okay. so let me come to salon. it's not yet clear how long these riley operation in the west bank might last. the palestinian authority is condemned it as a serious escalation, judge us to intervene. we can now speak to tanya cramer and jerusalem, tanya, these were the biggest as really, rates in close to 2 decades in the occupied westbank. what is this real trying to achieve here? the line as they say are, these are the biggest or, you know, counter terrorism operation. right now they're carrying out the mainland, the northern part of the west bang go through her life, janine area to a car, him area, but also novelist and to boss. these cities and places in the northern or westbank . now, the military said that has been an uptick office. they've put it a tax emanating from these places in israel, but also on is really troops operating in the occupied of westbank. and also that these areas were flooded, as they said, with weapons of by iran. now we're getting reports here that heavy fighting is still going on in some of these places, fighting between militants and it's really military residents. they have said that the entrances are blocked from the palestinian prime minister's office. that was the statement about the warning that the access to hospitals is not given in certain areas. also, the military has used drones in some of these area. so this was why the condemned by the policy, you know, sorry to, that's within part of the westbank and also how mouse has called for a general mobilization. this comes, of course, on the back to of, of a very tense situation for palestinians in the occupied west spring with a day the rates going on for many, many months. now the, the a very dia, economic situation closes in the west bank and increasing settler violence. and the united nations has just more. and again, also that this could deepen the, as they put it already cut us traffic situation in the occupied westbank. i want to talk about timing here because these fire negotiations between israel and how moss are supposed to restart today and dell could there be a link? so i think it's very hard at the moment to put a link on on that. but i mean, if this escalation goes for the, it certainly could have some sort of impact also on these talks. but having said that, we don't know where these talks stand at the moment. we're getting different sick notes from the mediators on the one hand, but also from as well and time us of the united states where very optimistic in the tones last week that actually wanted to have a dia concluded by last week that would include an end to the board ceasefire and the release of the hostages, but this was not picked up or shared by israel and how much they still cannot agree on certain of the sticking points. so the longer of course, a, this goes on and we also have to say the board and gaza is continuing. this could have an impact on these talks so far they're continuing. but there is also no re of pro quest at the moment, at least reported from these talks. the delay is tonya kramer. andrews, i'm always great speaking to you. thank you so much. japan is bracing for the arrival of a powerful ty, food that's already bringing heavy rains and strong winds to southern areas, transport them. public services have been suspended in some areas. officials of warrant of the dangers of type of insurance on telling hundreds of thousands of residents to evacuate, deserted streets and shuddered. shops, residents on japan, south western islands are taking cover as typhoon shaun, shaun whips up strong winds and high waves. gusts powerful enough to bring down houses. our forecast authorities have issued what's known as a special warning for residence on the main southern island of t issue. a clear mind any time president it's doing wins high waves and storm searches are expected. the highest level of course and is required to the officials, have given evacuation orders for more than 800000 people in southern and central japan. they won. the typhoon could become a major disaster. sean sean is unpredictable, and forecasters are struggling to pinpoint when and where it will make landfall. but depends whether agency says it could strike the south west on thursday and had to central and eastern regions including the capitol. tokyo. the storm is so big that it's even being felt in central japan where rescuers have been coming through debris. after the heavy rain felt triggered, a landslide residents in the projected path are being advised to take precautionary measu

, shaun telling hundreds of thousands of residents to evacuate, deserted streets and shuddered. shops, residents on japan, south western islands are taking cover as typhoon shaun, shaun whips up strong winds and highways gusts powerful enough to bring down houses. our forecast authorities have issued what's known as a special warning for residence on the main southern island of t issue. a clear mind, any time president it's doing wins high waves and storm searches are expected. the highest level of caution is required to the officials have given evacuation orders for more than 800000 people in southern and central japan. they won. the typhoon could become a major disaster. sean sean is unpredictable, and forecasters are struggling to pinpoint when and where it will make landfall. but depends whether agency says it could strike the south west on thursday and had to central and eastern regions including the capitol. tokyo. the storm is so big that it's even being felt in central japan where rescuers have been combing through debris. after the heavy rain fell triggered a landslide. residents in the projected path are being advised to take precautionary measures and chec

shaun, shaun authorities issue an emergency as a south west prepares for what could be one of the strongest storms that ever hit the region. and the red carpet is ready for the 81st at venice. film festival will look at some of the movies getting buzz at this year's event. the welcome to the program, i'm the call for at least at least 10 palestinians have been killed and a large scale series of reasons strikes carried down by is really forces in the occupied westbank. israel's foreign minister says the operations are designed to ford arraignment is will miss terrorist infrastructure in the northern west bank is really forces have also sealed off the city of jeanine, according to his mere of tearing up roads as they come is rarely, soldiers have descended on rescue t kemp, villages and cities across the north of the occupied west bank. according to israel's foreign minister, these troops have gone in to destroy tara infrastructure. while israel has been carrying out near daily rate since the mass october 7th terrorist attacks. this operation seems to be significantly larger x, but say it's the 1st time since 2005 that is really full series of attacks in so many places at once. in the west bank the city of jeanine law known as the militant stronghold, is one of the focuses of the raids protest. city in the media says that his radio troops here have sealed off several roads and blocked access to medical facilities . by building a barrier is in the streets. israel has been attacking from the air as well, carrying out drain strikes on targets, including this call that was hit near jeanine. these really ami release this footage of another strike from this overall refugee camp that it said killed full militants. this man was wounded in that attack, which he said killed his family members on the list of these. my wife asked me what happens thinking it has my told her and asked her to go and check on the children on the roof. tell them happens a lot. when long as you move on to the rooftop of 2003 of our children, 2 weeks ago, but my, the rest in peace one was injured, was that they took into the hospital and hopefully he'll be a little going to. so it's not yet clear how long these riley operation in the west bank might last the palestinian authority. it's condemned it as a serious escalation and the us to intervene. let's get more from the w. sonya cramer in jerusalem. tony and these were the biggest, these really raids and close to 2 decades in the occupied westbank. what is israel hoping to achieve? slim from around the sun? these rates are still on going and to the is really military argues that uh, they describe this as counter terrorism. operations is one of the largest operations in recent months. they say they have seen an uptick in a tax and as well and also in its troops in the okay, operating in new york, you pipe or west spring emanating from the northern westbank, mainly from the area of janine and to car in this weather operating most due right now, but also across the west bank. and the military also said that the areas plotted of this um weapons financed by uh, yvonne no for people. this part of students. they see a daily rates uh, you know, almost every day and so, but this is a logical operation also involving drones res, seem to use of drones also increasing in recent months in the west bank. and of course, this comes on the back to of, of you know, deteriorating situation. also the according to the posting huffman history and romano over 650 people, have been killed. this number includes many times and civilians, thousands have been arrested there. and as you heard in the report, this latest large scale operation has been condemned by the posting authority. other rules and limited parts of the occupied westbank come office called for a general mobilization. but at the end of the day, it's the civilian population. the that's a surface, the most tanya, israel's foreign minister has called for the threat in the west bank to be dealt with in the same way as the terrorist infrastructure in gaza. could these rates need the beginning of a much bigger, longer operation? i have no indication as of yet how long this operation will last and again, there will be still daily rates across uh the uh, westbank uh, in general. the army said that in the initial stages or in the 1st phase and be heard of course, also this controversial statement of bias was for administer. basically saying he wants to people to be evacuated as he puts it. and that is a bit the logic. but be seen also what is happening uh in gaza, where people have been a forcibly displaced over the past 10 months time and time again. now of course, especially the refugee comes there where these uh, operation a take place are densely populated and respond saying, you know, a bulldozer is moving in and it's very, very difficult for people there to stay out of homes way. there was the w as tanya kramer from jerusalem. thanks for that update. and we can now look at some of the stories making headlines around the world today. a new british prime minister care storm or has been visiting berlin, chancellor all shots receive stormer with full military honors, storm or is hoping talks will help restarting relations between the u. k. and the european union ties have been strained since breakfast when britain left the e. u. in spain. the beloved festival of le tomantino has kicked off with thousands of visitors at the jain food side where people squished tomatoes and throw them at each other. the event is seen as a celebration of joy, freedom and springs, communal spirits and thousands of dead fish have washed up on the shores of progress. so stick or skulls in greece over the last few days. experts say fresh water, fresh do regularly dying here when currents pulled them into the gulf. salty water . but authorities are now investigating what caused them to die in such large numbers. japan is bracing for the arrival of a powerful ty, food, and that's already bringing heavy rains and strong winds to southern areas. transport and public services have been suspended in some areas. officials of warrants of the dangers of ty, phone, sean sean telling hundreds of thousands of residents to evacuate, deserted streets and shuddered. shops, residents on japan, south western islands are taking cover as typhoon shaun, shaun whips up strong winds and high waves. gusts powerful enough to bring down houses. our forecast authorities have issued what's known as a special warning for residence on the main southern island of keys. you wouldn't mind anytime president at storm winds. high waves and storm such as are expected. the highest level of caution is required. this officials have given evacuation orders for more than 800000 people in southern and central japan. they want the typhoon could become a major disaster. sean sean is unpredictable, and forecasters are struggling to pinpoint when and where it will make landfall. but depends whether agency says it could strike the south west on thursday and had to central and eastern regions including the capitol. tokyo. the storm is so big that it's even being felt in central japan where rescuers have been coming through debris after the heavy rain fall triggered a landslide residents in the predicted path are being advised to take precautionary measures and

shaun, shaun wip such strong winds and high waves. gusts powerful enough to bring down houses. our forecast authorities have issued what's known as a special warning for residence on the main southern island of t issue. a clear mind, any time president it's doing wins high waves and storm searches are expected. the highest level of caution is required to the officials have given evacuation orders for more than 800000 people in southern and central japan. they won. the typhoon could become a major disaster. sean sean is unpredictable, and forecasters are struggling to pinpoint when and where it will make landfall. but depends whether agency says it could strike the south west on thursday and had to central and eastern regions including the capital tokyo. the storm is so big that it's even being felt in central japan where rescuers have been combing through debris after the heavy rain fell triggered a landslide. residents in the predicted path are being advised to take precautionary measures and check into shelters to save lives. shaun shaun is the 2nd type boon to hit japan. within weeks the government is freeing up resources for disaster responses as the nation. braces for a violent storm. sonya blash good is a journalist who's been traveling in southern japan near the most affected areas. she told us how she's being affected by the types and a yes or is it just such a we just a minutes to to get away from here. so we just left to whole calling the northern part of q through 2 hours ago and just arrived in your ocean tomorrow. i'm traveling at the moment with my sister and her family invest. yesterday we were actually on the volcano in the middle of for the northern middle part of the future . when they told us, please make sure you get away from this area as soon as you can traveling those. maybe a bit more quickly than you have in mind and, and so we did. so i'm actually quite glad that we arrived and you're welcome. and i'm really just traveling one day ahead of this very useful, very powerful storm coming up t

it's really what's what causes such large damage forecasters say shaun shaun is losing strength but worn, that strong winds and heavy rain fall could persist as a storm has north. this is a quick reminder for you about top story, home home courses convicted to john list. so sedition by undermining stateful, thirsty in the chinese territory, the to the editors of the now closed website style news. one of the last outlets to publish government criticism. and you're up to date, thanks so much for watching. the domain is the name is the calls back said wow, thank you so much for joining in. welcome to don't hold bad. a lot of people do that. it's all about saying it loud mass would have being nosy, bay, like good, everyone to king the healthy award winning called called the called back. the nato, the north atlantic treaty organization was formed to 70.

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at least 3 people have been killed as stifling shaun, shaun mainland for in the southern japan. the storm has torn into japan southern t issue island and is expected to head north over the coming decades. more than 55000 people have fled, the area and hundreds of flights have been grounded. authorities have issue the highest level of the home for the for the stream wins and potential storm surgeons . sanction is the most powerful time for me to hit japan this year. that's bringing sonya bloss cuz he's a journalist based in japan and joins been out from hiroshima as sonya off of the ty, phone made line full of what's the latest? what can you tell us as well as you mentioned before, that happened casualties already. tons of people with ginger several tens of thousands and hundreds of thousands, even though i've seen this place have been order to, to go to the shelters. this message press everywhere and not just the infusion, the southern part of japan. but you can see where i am, the most strange that they canceled the local trades, not to you. and it's going to be much, much wors

japan hunkering down in the face of the strongest ty, soon to hit the country this year timeframe, shaun shaun has torn into japan's southern to you. so island and is expected to head north of the 55000 people have been evacuated authorities to issue the highest level of that for extreme wins and potential stone searches. the new british prime minister keeps dom a has been visiting berlin, chancellor, olaf sholtes receives dom up with full military honors. he's hoping talks will help reset relations between the u. k. under your opinion, ties have been strained since breakfast when brittany left. the issue with apparently big games of i've been with the colorful sarah many on this on some of the say in central powers move in full 1000 athletes a competing for gold, silver, and bronze metals. you know, it's a $55.00 events across $22.00 sports. organize assign nearly 2000000 tickets have been sold so far. power libyans will be competing at many of the spectacular powers and use that hoisted the olympic sports earlier this month. and dw correspondent rosie books. i told us more about the atmosphe

a car maker toyota has suspended all production as tie from an shaun, shaun approaches the inquiry. richardson, thank you so much for joining us. at least 9 palestinians have been killed in a coordinated series of raids and strikes carried out by is really forces in the occupied west bank. these really armies the operations carried out in 4 cities were designed to quote sport terrorism in janine and told carmen in the northern west bank and our correspondent felix tom. so it has the latest from jerusalem. so well, as he said, these really army says it's active in the northern part of the west bank to quote, for a terrorist activities. at the same time, it's being active in the west bank for quite a while. virtually since the some of the locked over. um saying that there is a rising service activity um several postings have been killed. and this operation um seemed, was, will go on in the, in the coming days. um and uh it remains to be seen uh what sort of scales these are the army plans for this sort of operation. um and uh, as you said, it's also significant due to the fact that it combines a

under investigation for alleged crimes committed on telegraph post on the program. ty, food and shaun shaun hits south in japan, bringing powerful winds and a deluge of rain. thousands of people have been told to leave their homes as a precaution and let the games begin. paris stages the opening ceremony of the 2020 full power olympic games. the french capital talents its progress towards making the city fully accessible. the big obstacles do remain the hello and welcome to the program. i'm jared read. that's hard. he's in france. have released the boss of the telegram messaging at the palm field. you're all for the take on your opinion, was granted conditional release. we filed a 5000000 euros. you must also remain in france and report to police twice a week. the russian born to all fours, arrested in paris over the weekend earlier. he was charged with violations related to the messaging up prosecutor as i do or of is completed in crimes can be sent to by office on his platform. it drops to time and came as part of an inquiry opened last month involving 12 alleged criminal violations inclu

post on the program, ty, food and shaun. shaun hits south in japan, bringing powerful winds and a deluge of rain. thousands of people who are being told to leave their homes as a precaution and let the games begin. powers the stages, the opening ceremony of the 2020 full power olympic games of french capital, talents its progress towards making the city.

carrying out operations in some towns in the north, also coming up japan, braces for a typo in shaun, shaun authorities, issue and emergency as a self was prepares for what could be one of the strongest storms to ever hit the regent and the paralympic games kick off in paris. the french capital tells us progress towards making the city fully accessible though.

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in the northern west bank. japan is bracing for the arrival of ty, phone, shaun, shaun with heavy rain and strong winds. forecast, air and train surfaces are already effected. authorities have issued an emergency warning thing. it could be one of the strongest storms to ever hit the region.

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as tyson shaun shaun approaches why has pockets tons internet to become so slow. price per se, authorities are stuffing up surveillance and censorship. the unclear richardson. thank you so much for joining us. at least 9 palestinians have been killed in a coordinated series of raids and strikes carried out by israeli forces and occupied west bank is really army says the operations carried out in 4 cities were designed to quote for terrorism in geneva and 12 current in the northern west and our correspondent and felix at times. so it has the latest from jerusalem. so well as he said, these really army says it's active in the northern part of the westbank to quote forth or terrorist activities. at the same time, it's been active in the west bank for quite a while. virtually since the some of the volks over. um saying that there is a rising service activity. um, several palestinians have been killed. and this operation um seemed, was, will go on in the, in the coming days. um and uh it remains to be seen. uh, what sort of scale these are the army plans for this sort

japan braces for an extreme ty, food, car maker, toyota has suspended all production as high food, shaun, shaun approaches and why hasn't pockets on the internet. it comes so slow, price for say as to where these are stepping up, surveillance and sensory. that's all to add on the program. oasis makes a com back. definitely maybe the the weight is over. after a 15 year hiatus the brit pop band announces a reunion toward what is the few to really over between the gallagher brothers the . i'm quite richardson. welcome to the program. at least 9 palestinians have been killed in a coordinated series of raids and strikes carried out by his really forces in the occupied west bank. he is rarely armies as the operations carried out and 4 cities were designed to quote war terrorism in a janine and a tool car in the northern west bank at our correspondence, felix tom. so it has the latest from jerusalem. well there's, he said, these really army says it's active in the northern part of the westbank to quote, for a terrorist activities. at the same time, it's been active in the west bank for quite a while,

it's really what's, what causes such large damage forecasters say shaun shaun is losing strength but worn, that strong winds and heavy rainfall could persist. as a storm has north free is into her ashes of oregon's ukraine must cause voltage neighbors. affronted per path of the threat of wool on their own soil. lot fairly so area under stony construct a, the so called baltic defense line to load off a russian attacks dw correspondence, your research a went to the landfill on board and titled cassava. to find out how the border region, this strange thing, it's defense capabilities. can these concrete blocks stop russian tanks? that's a big jump for so called dragon's to use the lock the as a border with russia. that part of the bolting defense line and major project shall have to buy lots of jo. this is a new and estonia against the potential threats from neighboring. russia is don't like them nice. that makes them then they must, by no means underestimate the imperialist attitude and the level of aggressiveness in our neighboring country. so i don't want to make any assumptions here

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type food, shaun, shaun in japan, south west has left at least 3 people bed, $39.00 injured and hundreds of thousands without power. gusts of more than 200 kilometers an hour lashed the islands of q. u and once you open 250000 homes in 7, perfect, just o experiencing power outages call make it to you or just suspended operations of 14 plants and some people are missing off to non sites. people in india, as capital, have worked into severe flooding and congested roads, following heavy rains of nights, creases and parents dropping the children off to school with stuck in traffic for hours. if they tried to get through knee. deep water jelly is experienced a series of extreme weather events. over the past few months, temperatures have stored and heavy rain full has caused the roof to collapse. the cities at port on the inquiry shed. cruise has been battling a while 5 and broke out into a popular tourist voice. it was the blaze budding near the city of splits threatening homes and its suburbs. the fire services flames have now been put out, but embers could start new fires. ok, that's it for

it's really what's, what causes such large damage forecasters say shaun shaun is losing strength but worn, that strong winds and heavy rain fall could persist as a storm has north. now 3 is into rushes. war against ukraine most goes both neighbors were trying to count to the stress of war on the open soil. lot via lithuania and the stony. i'll construct saying the cycle bolting defense line toward of a russian attack. dw correspondent, erie russia. so went to the lot, the in board a town of casa, to find out how the border region is strengthening its defense capabilities. can these concrete blocks stop russian tanks? that's a big jump for so called dragon's to use the lock, the us border with russia. that part of the bolting defense line and major project shall have to buy lots of jo. this is a new and estonia against the potential threats from neighboring. russia is, don't like them as the extent that they must, by no means underestimate the imperialist attitude and the level of aggressiveness in our neighboring country. and so i don't want to make any assumptions here about what so

and you can see ty, food, shaun, shaun working its way over the southern islands of japan. no, it is a very slow moving powerful system. the projected parts of the seas that potentially moving from kia sho onto chicago and eventually honshu. now it's bringing some very strong winds. we've also got high waves, the very rough seas, with this one. and we are expecting torrential rain up to half a meter over 24 hours in some places. so we are expecting some flooding, possibly lance lights and much lights with that. now elsewhere across the region, because we've got that very active with a much of the energy is being pulled out east. because we much wyatt across much of china with west of the weather across the south. and we're also seeing some very heavy rain for the south of this across south east asia, from the storms are expected for thailand rushing out across the philippines. we have got some warnings of the flooding here. i'm not sure why us, indonesia, you can see some heavier rain for, for the west and east over the next few days. but the west has to all, the weather co

anyway, shaun, shaun, the tie street is reached, peak strength is losing a little bit. it's on its way up to congress, even. it's still going to be most likely it's high food as it goes very coast east . i'll tell you what the top of the city so that potentially quite damaging it takes the energy from the rest of east asia. but just trying looks drive all this time. quite hawthorn, have to say one, but she made and most likely, sundry dining hall car congress she me then gets thai food whether on thursday, but rapidly improves for friday and saturday. now we've had some pretty flooding weather in good. you're right, and you can pick any sitting goods or typically, or it's worse. we got half a meter of ranges, hardly surprising that we felt like all over the place at the top. our major is at least twice what we average suggest for this month. but there is more to come, not just in good, your to rogers done, and smoking practice time, the, the, [000:00:00;00] the, [000:00:00;00] the, you're watching out just the time to recount headlines. the head of the un nuclear watchd

morning and 5000000 people in japan, toe to evacuate something on the issue becomes also tied to and shaun shaun may not be the strongest storm to hit the country since 1960 at least 5 people died. a drone attack just north of saddam's capital costume is kills at least 12 people which is carried out by the student. these all mean the city of great, the army is trying to reclaim the area from the parent, but it shrink wrap it support forces for the finance, for those flooding that's forced to more than 100000 people from the homes. un says sedona, stuffing the wells west who monetary and crisis. people who fled to say they have nowhere to get. even morgan has more from the capital of how to a heavy rains and to a rental floods have killed at least $140.00 people according to this with the new government and has this place more than 30000 families across them safe in the country. and has destroyed infrastructure, including roads and highways, the time needed to deliver assistance to those in need. now this fighting and the fact that the flooding has cut off, people from the interior assistance is

in decades. shaun shaun last the south west on thursday, killing at least 4 people. at least 237000 homes are without power. what is the name of this type? food is scary. intensive disaster. we're getting a large amount of rain so i don't know what will happen going forward. i really hope everyone will stay safe to tie food has changed its course frequently and stayed in the area for a long time. so the amount of rain has increased dramatically. that's what i'm concerned about. i mean, i'm concerned because i obviously do not want to miss our flight back to new york on september. second, if the power failures really continue to go on for the next couple of days and we're going to be screwed. and we'll be stuck here a little bit longer. south korea's constitutional court has made what's seen as a landmark ruling in favor of young environmental us. a judgment found the country's climate laws aren't enough to protect citizens, rights units can, has more from so south korea's climate legislation does not adequately protect basic human rights. that's the unanimous ruling

been told to leave the homes as depends hits by one of the strongest type students in decades. shaun shaun the last the south west on sized a killing at least 4 people. at least 23700000 times without power south coast constitutional cold has made what seen those a lot ruling in favor of young environmentalist judgment the front of the country's climate laws aren't enough to protect citizens rights seen as kim found us from sole south korea's climate legislation does not adequately protect basic human rights. that's the unanimous ruling by the constitutional court, which has called on the government to do more to curve greenhouse gas emissions. specifically to expand it's carbon reduction plans. beyond the year 2030 young activists have welcome the verdict, saying this is just the beginning of the law. i hope this ruling will bring about pray to changes. so children like may won't have to file constitutional complaints in the future. the climate crisis is not a future problem, but a reality that everyone is facing right now. south koreans like much of the world have.

carrying out operations in some towns in the north, also coming up japan, braces for ty, phone, shaun, shaun authorities issue and emergency at the southwest for peers, for what could be one of the strongest storms to ever hit the region. with less than an hour to go until the paralympic games kick off. paris counts as progress toward making the city fully accessible though some very deep obstacles are made.

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i'm joined now by former labour minister shaun simon. shaun, welcome to gb tonight.reat to see you. thanks for coming on. what do unions want in return for their money. >> they they want a labour government. that's why they fund labour election campaigns. i mean it averages at nine grand per elected mp. and let's just let's look at what a union is a unions are associations of millions of ordinary working people, generally not very rich people, generally not very rich people, just ordinary working people, just ordinary working people who explicitly opt in to contribute a little bit of the subs they pay for political campaigning for uses exactly like this. and it's very highly regulated and it's completely transparent. so those labour mps get an average of nine k each from these associations of workers who choose to do this with their hard earned cash, you will be hard pressed to find a tory mp who didn't get a lot more than nine k during the election campaign, from all kinds of people that nobody's asking any questions about just because they don't happen to be trade

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i'm joined now by former labour minister shaun simon. shaun, fantastic to have you on the show.y much. what confidence can the public possibly have in keir starmer that he's going to keep immigration at lower levels when he's got a home secretary that holds a sign saying refugees welcome, and he's obviously wants to take us back into the eu. >> i think the reason to be confident , is, >> i think the reason to be confident, is, is >> i think the reason to be confident , is, is democracy , confident, is, is democracy, elections. labour has just fought an election , in which fought an election, in which immigration was was a big issue. it wasn't mainly a big issue for laboun it wasn't mainly a big issue for labour, but it was a very big issue for the tories cost the tories very dearly in the last election and labour profited , election and labour profited, profited from it without really having to go into very much depth in their own plans. but they were very clear that they would crack down on the boats and make a difference to that , and make a difference to that, and make a diff

shaun simon, the my panel. shaun simon, the former labour minister and connor tomlinson, the writer and commentator. good evening gents, to both of you. you're very welcome tonight as are each and every single one of you at home, wherever you're watching or listening, you're very, very welcome. this evening i want you to be part of our conversation tonight. and you can do so in all the usual ways. you can email me gb views at gb news.com. you can go to the website, which is gbnews.com/yoursay. or of course you can tweet or text me. but as i said, wherever you are, you're very welcome tonight. now look very welcome tonight. now look very dark days at the moment it feels like in society. so i want to start my programme. if you will take a moment, just to look at some good news, if we can call it that. because of course, i wish that we were never in this position in the first place. but i just wanted to let you all know that all the children now that are under the care of alder hey children's hospital in southport, are being safely discharged home. we all know that the incident, which sparked a lot of the unrest that we are having in our society, of course , started with that attack course, started with that attack on those little girls that were just, you know what, as as children do up and down this country, starting their school holidays, going to a dance class , holidays, going to a dance class, bracelet making class with their, you know, in the theme of their, you know, in the theme of their idol, taylor swift. we all know by now the horrendous things that happened next. so of course, many of us will have been hoping and praying for those little children so i can again confirm that they are all now out of hospital. and thank goodness for that. of course, all of those children that have beenin all of those children that have been in hospital and beyond will hold the memories of that horrendous, incident. i don't even have the words. i don't even have the words. i don't even want to glorify that man in any way. so all i will say is that those children will have trauma. i imagine for a long time to come, and we pray for each and every single one of them, and all of them are affected by that horrendous situation. now, speaking of the horrendous situations, we've had another night of carnage unfold on the streets of britain last night. the prime minister will be holding another cobra meeting imminently. actually, tonight i've got to say though, one of the things that's kind of really struck me is that many people media, of course, whipping themselves into a frenzy about how far right everything is. cobra meetings happening, how far right everything is. cobra meetings happening , tough cobra meetings happening, tough talking coming out from keir starmer. let me start because there's a lot i want to address in tonight's program, because many people would argue now that this two tier scenario is not just affecting policing, it's affecting government response. perhaps it's affecting some of the media coverage of it and so on.and the media coverage of it and so on. and so forth. i'll unpick all of that throughout this programme, worry not. let me just start though. i'll start with you, connor. your general kind of thoughts on what we're seeing are caring at the moment. >> i think if keir starmer wanted to prevent further violence, he would not have responded in the way that he has . responded in the way that he has. i don't see how it's responsible for a prime minister to declare the need for a standing army of police officers, implying he is going to war with someone, to only come out and give a press conferences. in the aftermath of the southport stabbings , not the southport stabbings, not because of the stabbing, because of the ensuing protests and riots to only unilaterally blame the far right when we have got abundant videos on social media and in mainstream reporting now of muslim gangs charging police lines in bolton , in birmingham lines in bolton, in birmingham to only say that the far right are responsible for this, and therefore everyone else must be made to feel safe, to then allocate £28 million to the defence of mosques. no mosque should be attacked, but of course there is a muslim gang out there. he is inflaming tensions among both groups and thatis tensions among both groups and that is very reckless. and so he should come out tonight after his cobra meeting and deliver a much more balanced address and put to rest these. i think, well substantiated claims that there is a two tier approach to policing in this country. sean >> there are there are not. well substantiated claims. these claims are utterly, utterly unsubstantiated. they're being made by which claims about the claims? well, for instance , the claims? well, for instance, the claims? well, for instance, the claim that there is a there muslim gangs loads of evidence of muslim gangs getting up to stuff just as bad as the football hooligans who are laying waste to the country. that's simply not true. sorry. simply, should they be simply not? >> should they be carrying bladed weapons and intimidating sky news simply one second? >> simply, it's a lie. no, no, i'm afraid you are the one who told the lie. and by telling those lies, you are deliberately inflaming this situation. that's the truth. >> what lies do you believe is telling? >> well, what he just said that i just said. that's just not true. it's not true that there are muslim gangs roaming the country doing the same kind of thing . the prime minister thing. the prime minister reported on it on sunday, and the prime minister should show balance. the truth is that there are huge numbers of coordinated football, hooligan, criminal thugs who are doing serious violence, putting dozens and dozens of brave police officers in hospital doing huge damage to property. there is no equivalent muslim theme going on. that is a lie . >> okay, >> okay, so >> okay, so where >> okay, so where do >> okay, so where do we >> okay, so where do we start with this. what we're seeing i think around this table actually reflects the conversation. the debates, the disagreements that are happening in broader society because many people are of connor's opinion and many people, of course, are also of sean's opinion. i want to bring you into this conversation. so i want your thoughts throughout all of this. now, social media. so when you're saying, in fact, let me let you answer for yourself, i was just about to start explaining on your behalf. you can do that yourself. you're a big boy. so he's saying you're lying when you're saying that these are these gangs roaming around and all the rest of it. what do you say about to that gb news this morning, charlie peters went and spoke with the woman who runs the pub that a gang of muslim men flying the palestine flag, chanting allahu akban palestine flag, chanting allahu akbar, carrying blades, attacked. >> there was nothing to do with the protests in that pub. there were children there. in the aftermath, the karaoke event and this is all on video and that was that was disgraceful behaviour by that small group of individuals. >> so i'm not lying then, several of whom doubtless will be arrested for the crimes that they committed then, but it is not comparable. did they put 50 police officers in hospital? did they set fire to and destroy the pub? did they attack and firebomb know nothing of the sort? they did nothing. they did nothing of the sort. they did assault around the pub, nothing of the sort. you're telling the truth, nothing of the sort. and nothing like it. and have you shown, have you talked about the video on the bbc this evening of local muslim people going round to that pub, to apologise on behalf of local? there's a problem there . problem there. >> one of them that actually went round for the apology has been identified by online sleuths as probably one of the perpetrators. >> online sleuths . >> online sleuths. >> online sleuths. >> because he's wearing these, he's the exact same build. it's the exact same. hang on everyone just stop. >> so just hang on. hold your horses. i just want to explain to my viewers at home if you're watching the telly, you are now seeing what sean basically said didn't happen. so you are now seeing a pub in birmingham? i think it is , and this was last think it is, and this was last night. i didn't say it didn't happen. >> i said it wasn't. i said it wasn't comparable. i said it wasn't. you said yes. absolutely. that was his whole point. it was a lie. he said the prime minister should show balance. it is a lie to say that anything comparable hasn't been happening. >> he shouldn't condemn that. >> he shouldn't condemn that. >> it is a lie to say he should condemn that. if you ask the prime minister to condemn criminality, a problem, he will clearly condemn all criminality. no, no, no, as i just said, he's not condemning all there is. no, he's not comparable. all criminality. >> this is the point. he's only blamed the far right. i don't want people setting fire to hotels in rochdale. i don't want opportunistic thugs going and looting a lush or a greggs. and i don't want this to happen ehhen >> another clip from birmingham last night where the mobs, the muslim mobs of men, would decided that a car had a white man in it and they smashed this car. many would say they attempted to get the driver out of this car, apparently because of this car, apparently because of the skin colour many would say. i mean, did did they or not? on the flip side, well, sean, you know, many people have seen this footage. i'm showing the footage for themselves. so you at home can be the judge. this is hull, my hometown. i'm ashamed to admit that this is a gang of. you know, protesters here that the media would describe as far right . they, describe as far right. they, too, are attacking a car because they said it had foreign looking men in the car. this is completely disgusting. so i've just shown you two sides completely unacceptable . you've completely unacceptable. you've got the so—called which i wouldn't call these people out , wouldn't call these people out, but you've got the so—called, protesters that people regard too as far. right. you've seen someone attacking that car there because they think there's foreign people driving, disgusting, racist behaviour. i can tell you that. and then you've seen the other side there in birmingham, where you've got muslim groups attacking a car because they think a white guy is driving an edl member. also racist, disgusting behaviour. and i would argue quite comparable, actually not not comparable, actually not not comparable at all. >> because not comparable in scale have dozens and dozens and dozens of policemen being put in hospital by those, those muslims in birmingham. no, no. >> so let me answer. let me tell you now what many people sean will be shouting at their screens. so your concern here screens. so your concern here seems screens. so your concern here seems to be your measure of badness. almost seems to be how many police officers have been injured? many of my viewers, sean, will be shouting at their screens saying no, michelle, there's not been masses of police officers injured in birmingham for one simple reason . birmingham for one simple reason. where was the where were the police? it was like swat. the police? it was like swat. the police officer. where were they when you had gangs of these people, many of them armed? we saw that for ourselves, many of them doing all kinds of things in their car. and many of them, as i've just shown you, are trying to get at somebody in their car because they thought it was an edl member. the police weren't harmed because the police weren't there. >> the police were there. >> the police were there. >> they weren't were no, they weren't no, weren't literally. one of the heads of birmingham police came out this morning and said it was nothing more than a scuffle you'd see on a saturday night. they were not there. this is what i'm saying. it is comparable because both actions are immoral. and i'll tell you what, mate, i think they should crack down on this before they reach the same scale of police officer injuries. i don't think they should wait till then. and keir starmer, by not calling it out, is letting it escalate. bnan out, is letting it escalate. brian graham whetstone, the police officer who spent 30 years on the front line of pubuc years on the front line of public order policing and wrote the book on public public order policing, absolutely clearly , policing, absolutely clearly, unequivocally, as all senior police officers have done have have said , obviously policing have said, obviously policing anybody who knows anything about policing will tell you is tiered . policing will tell you is tiered. >> you can't police everything, everything at full scale, everywhere, all the time. you tier policing according to the threat and the and the requirement that event those blokes standing in the middle of a roundabout was appropriately policed by standing in the middle of a roundabout. >> they literally just we've just played the footage of them assaulting a car and assaulting assaulting a car and assaulting a pub. why why are you not admitting this has happened? i'm happy. admitting this has happened? i'm happy- why admitting this has happened? i'm happy. why are you not distinguishing that from the level of disorder, violence and criminality? i already said they should go to prison. >> the level of disorder, violence and criminality that has gone on all over this country. i already said for a week. the bottom line here, the bottom line is which side are you on? and you are on the side of the criminal football hoougans. of the criminal football hooligans . that is which side hooligans. that is which side you're on because you're trying to make the argument that a few muslims standing in the middle of a roundabout amounts to the same thing, and it doesn't. they weren't nothing like it. >> roundabout and you know it. they had bladed weapons. they intimidated sky news reporter. they were speeding. they attacked a car and they attacked people inside a pub. and i have no problem condemning people that are arsonists, that are i have no problem. and you don't? >> i have no problem. no. >> i have no problem. no. >> just denied it existed until he played video footage. no. you said i was a liar. i didn't know there were no two tiers of policing. and you cited a police officer saying is not true at all. >> there, please. >> there, please. >> i have condemned any criminality that happened, and i have said that i have no doubt that the police, who would have been well aware what was happening, will take action. there will be arrest. >> that is my concern. i have a doubt. that's because not present, because you're not on the side of the police. >> you're not on the side of britain. i'm on. you're not on the side of the country. you're not on the side of our law. you're not on the side of our institutions. you're only on the side of the football hooligans who are trying to destroy all that. >> that's why i am on the side of the law, being applied equally. and my concern is, as it was not in harehills, leeds, as it was not in the recent manchester airport event, as it was not clearly in the footage you saw in birmingham. >> how do you know how the law was or wasn't applied in the recent manchester airport events? >> because they've not been charged yet? >> what does that mean? that the law hasn't? >> yes, because we've all seen the cctv where they're hitting police officers unprovoked. they broke a femur. >> we'll talk to a lawyer. >> we'll talk to a lawyer. >> we're going to do that later. but this is another in a pattern of events. we cannot have it where the law is afraid of applying the law to certain law is not afraid. >> the law is not afraid. clearly is. the law is not afraid. the police are not afraid. the police are not afraid. the police are not afraid. the prime minister is not afraid. i ask you a question. you have an agenda? >> yeah, right. okay, well, we're going to come back. apparently he's saying he's got an agenda, so we'll ask him about that in a minute after the break. let me just be clear. are you telling me and the viewers that you don't think there's anything to terror going on in the society, whether it's policing, whether it's media reporting or government response, it's all, level playing field. it's all not nothing to see here. >> do you not think that what is the what? >> i think i'm asking you what you think. i know what i think. >> what colour are most people in prison? >> what's that got to do with my question to you? >> i'll tell you the answer. the answer is that they're not white. so how does that fit with your two tier policing? >> but i'm asking you, in current times with the conversation that we're having now, which is about the state of the rioting, the protesting, and the rioting, the protesting, and the criminality and all of that, do you think there is a two tier response to the current goings on on the streets or not? >> i don't think the current goings on have got two tiers. the current goings on are about far right football hooligan criminals trying to attack our democracy, and they are being policed by hard working, brave policed by hard working, brave police people who should have the support that they're not getting. right? well as i've said, you're hearing two very different opinions here, and this is what i want to happen. >> i want different sides of these arguments to come together and respectfully debate because sean saying, whose side are you on? and actually, if you don't mind me being so bold, i think this is part of the problem, actually, that people are being pushed to pick a side. whose side do you support? actually, i think we should all be on the very same side, which is the same side of peace and restoring law and order and calmness and civility to the society in which we live. so they should just be one side. if you ask me, this conversation is going to continue hello there. i'm michelle dewberry. this is dewbs& co el tel 7:00 alongside me, sean simon, the former labour minister, and conor tomlinson, the writer and commentator. i can tell you feisty debate to begin the programme. and actually this reflects what is going on in society at the moment. people have very strong opinions, they have different views as to who's causing which problems and how the government is or isn't responding to it. so we're very much echoing what many of you guys think at home. so you've heard from these two. let's hear from somebody else, shall we? listen to what she has to say. dame priti patel, you know, we believe in the rule of law in this country, not the rule of the mob . rule of the mob. >> end of story. what we saw last night and i saw that footage in birmingham that was that's just outrageous. and unacceptable. that was criminality and violence. but what was missing? where were the police now? i don't know the full facts behind this, so i don't want to go into any speculation whatsoever. but again, in the absence of the facts, the government needs to be answering these questions in parliament. >> well , there you go. that's >> well, there you go. that's priti patel, and that is an exclusive interview that's coming up tonight on the patrick christys show . he joins me now christys show. he joins me now to tell us more. patrick. >> yes , absolutely. so it's dame >> yes, absolutely. so it's dame priti patel's first tv interview since she announced that she was going to be running to be the leader of the conservative party hopefully, in her mind, going to be the next leader of the opposition in the next prime minister. of course, it's a wide ranging interview. i've asked her a series of questions, including whether or not she thinks that keir starmer and yvette cooper have made this rising worse. quite an interesting take from her on that. does she believe in two tier policing? does she believe i explicitly asked her whether or not she feels as though politicians are less likely to call out the actions of certain elements of the british muslim community, as they are for other aspects of communities in britain. again, an interesting answer. she was scathing about labour's jess phillips. she also chimed in a bit about keir starmer's pitch battle with elon musk that is raging on as well, just in terms of a couple of other aspects of it. i also wanted to know whether or not she would throw her arms around suella braverman if she became the next tory leader. those two are rumoured not to get on particularly well. why she thought she was better than robert jenrick and of course, as well . what would happen with well. what would happen with nigel farage and the reform party? i'll be on nigel's show later with another clip of what she had to say. i'm not sure it's great news for nigel. can i just very quickly, michelle, not to get into too much of your time. i have got another big scoop tonight. >> get on with it then. >> get on with it then. >> and it is revealed anyway, some of labour's secret plans for asylum seekers and illegal migrants. and i can't help but wonder, given tinderbox britain at the moment, whether or not that might actually make things a heck of a lot worse, you'll have to tune in to find out. >> that sounds riveting stuff . >> that sounds riveting stuff. patrick christys and i, for one, will be watching. that's tonight's patrick christys at 9:00. thank you very much for that. now, where were we? okay, i remember exactly where we were. we're debating what is unfolding on the streets of britain of course, we saw chaos again on the streets last night, and it really has yet again divided people. we've, of course, seen repeats of the scenes that we've had already, where you've got people that are protesting against things like uncontrolled immigration on the streets of britain . they are streets of britain. they are coming, i would argue, actually, to close in some cases to counter protest where people are obviously very passionate in their belief that refugees are welcome. so very unpleasant scenes that we've been seeing when those two groups are being confronted. also, the thing we were just really talking about last night was now we've had, the situation where and i would argue that again , lots of this argue that again, lots of this has been spawned by misinformation and i would argue as well, downright lies. quite frankly, on social media, because now you've got groups of people from within the muslim community taking to the streets, apparently to defend themselves against a so—called far right threat that's not actually materialising. it's people on social media that's saying people are coming down to your areas, connor tomlinson, we were just talking about that. sean simon is having absolutely none of that. your thoughts? >> well , i of that. your thoughts? >> well, i think it's inadvisable for anyone to go to these protests , first of all, these protests, first of all, because even if you are going down to show that you are mourning the loss of the southport victims or you have objections to immigration, as i do, you are probably going to be swept up in violence committed by other people, which you should not commit, and you will probably be arrested. so i'm going to say to people, even though feelings are high, it is very unwise to go down there. no matter what you hear. but i think the important point is being made before the break that the police have in other instances. and in this had a stronger presence at the english side of the riots than the muslim side of the riots. >> so you can't say english because a lot of people are muslim. there are also english. >> no, as in like the english flag waving ethnically english side of the riots, because there's not a large muslim presence at the counter at the main demonstration since the southport riots is there. i think that's a fair distinction to make. and the point being, there have been prior events and this has been raised by other guests on your show, particularly yesterday, like the black lives matter riots, where in america there was a parallel demonstration in england where there was criminal damage committed and the met gave their officers the go ahead to take the knee. there was the palestine protests every weekend and wednesday since october the 7th, not since israel's retaliation, mind you, who shot fireworks at police horses, who projected from the river to the sea on the elizabeth tower while parliament was in session, who were intimidating mps and they got a lot lighter of a touch. so all i'm asking is the standards be applied fairly and we don't have massive ethnic gangs fighting in british streets . fighting in british streets. >> it's not legitimate to distinguish between muslims and engush distinguish between muslims and english like it's not legitimate to say ethnic english versus muslims, but we don't talk like that in this country anymore. what do you mean you don't talk like that in this country. we the rest of the country, the mainstream, the normal, britain proper, britain, we don't talk like that. we don't think like that. and it's you that's like what? like that. >> like, what are you insinuating? >> i'm not extenuating. i'm saying it really clearly straight to your face. yes. i am so ethnic english versus muslim. we don't talk like that in this country anymore unless we are racists. >> it's possible to be not ethnically english and born in britain , but that's not britain, but that's not a controversial statement whatsoever . whatsoever. >> what's ethnically english mean as in your your grandparents and your parents, and they're from anglo—saxons. >> like, i'm not associating any morality with that. i'm just saying there are two groups here. one group is flying the engush here. one group is flying the english flag. one flag is the palestine flag. but then that group that's flying the palestine flag that are saying allahu akbar and the like, they're not protesting on behalf of england as the other protesters say they are . that's protesters say they are. that's the only distinction i make. >> those those hooligans in balaclavas throwing firebombs at mosques and putting british policemen in hospital, those people, they're not. they don't for stand england. hang on. >> i'm not saying they're standing for england. i'm saying they are english people. >> and they think none of them, none of them are irish then by heritage or scottish or they might well be. >> but i'm saying the predominant. >> why do you call them english? >> why do you call them english? >> because the predominance of the protests are waving the engush the protests are waving the english flag, and by their accents in the video, they sound english. why is this? why is this a contention? i'm just saying, there's one side here and one side there, and i don't want massive ethnic fights. what a weird thing to pick up on, because it's not a weird thing, because it's not a weird thing, because being english is not an ethnicity. >> england. hold on. england is a country, right? it's a nation. yeah. >> and a nation has a people. >> and a nation has a people. >> and a nation has a people. >> and this country, this nation of mine. and most people , of mine. and most people, including most people watching this program, they they don't they don't think like that anymore because it's full of people who are not and have not been for generations, what you call ethnically english. >> but hang on, there are still ethnically english people here. that doesn't mean that there aren't ethnic english people here just because we have new arrivals. that's like saying that's like saying scotland has immigrants, therefore there are no scottish people. >> but what i mean, i don't know if we're going slightly off topic because one of the one of the issues in society at the moment is everybody is throwing labels around left, right and centre. >> they're often sometimes doing it as a way of smearing people. they're often sometimes doing it as a way of trying to silence debate. and sometimes they're trying to do it to just categorise people. i mean, it's not the same, but it's certainly an application of labels. you've just described everyone earlier on as being football hooligans. i mean , unless you've followed i mean, unless you've followed each and every one of these people around, i suspect you've got no idea whether these guys are football fans, rugby fans, or nurse sports fans at all. >> the point of saying that is that what they're not is political protesters making a valid point? they have they have totally forfeited the right to be considered and i tell you now, by the way, that i agree with you. >> and i think that one of the things that's a real tragedy that's happened in all of this is that i do believe that there are a number of people, and i would argue that there are numbers of people are in their millions within this country that have very legitimate concerns about the shape and the direction that this country is travelling in. and for decades, the people in power when it comes to politicians has repeatedly ignored those people's concerns. they've not just ignored them, they've smeared them, they've tried to shame them into silence and they've delegitimized the concerns that many people have . concerns that many people have. what's happened now is by these , what's happened now is by these, criminal, thuggish , often racist criminal, thuggish, often racist activities . this is what we're activities. this is what we're now talking about. so we are now talking about people attacking police officers. that's never okay. it doesn't matter who's doing it doesn't matter what labels you want to give to anyone. you can't go around battering police officers. that's not what you do in this country. you certainly can't go around damaging places of worship, whether that's a mosque, synagogue , church or mosque, synagogue, church or whatever that is wrong, and i don't even want to embarrass myself, even by reducing this down to talking about nicking shoes and bath bombs. i mean, that goes without saying. and it also is categorically wrong when people start attacking someone else as innocent, just based on the colour of their skin. but i do find it quite remarkable that, and it's almost a convenient fact to the government that because the conversation now has come about, this stuff that we've just been talking about and denouncing quite rightly, the conversation that many people have, you're saying that there's not a political element to this , the, political element to this, the, the government, one of the, former chief police bosses, he was talking about classifying this as terrorism. so they must be, in his mind, some sort of element of trying to create some kind of change in policy or political outcome or something like that associated to some of this stuff. but do you think that many people in society do have legitimate concerns about things like immigration, uncontrolled immigration? >> i think you're right. when you say that there are millions of people who have those views , of people who have those views, and that those views have not found a place in, mainstream politics. and that that we haven't found a way as a society to have that conversation in a like in a in a good way. >> it's not that we've not found a way of society because many people are very open and able to have that conversation. what's happenedis have that conversation. what's happened is that people are operate within the establishments of power, whether that's politicians, whether it's many people within the media and so on and so forth. the second people and this is goes back years. the second people start raising concerns about the pace of change in their neighbourhoods or the fact that there is now a hotel in their neighbourhood that is full of a hundred men with no idea who these people are , essentially these people are, essentially from warzones via the safe country of france . obviously, country of france. obviously, the minute someone tries to raise those concerned, they are immediately called far right. and that is very deliberate. that's not an accident. that's not a, you know, accidental label. that's a deliberate label intended to shame people into silence. and then let me say this . when you censor, i have this. when you censor, i have a little saying, and i think that censorship is the midwife of extremism . when you take extremism. when you take somebody's concerns about and i accept, there's loads of people that love, the immigration rules as they are. and, you know, they'll stand on the chairs and they'll stand on the chairs and they'll chant refugees welcome and all the rest of it. so that's that's wonderful. i'm not talking about those people. i'm talking about those people. i'm talking about those people. i'm talking about the opposite side of the argument. when people do have those concerns and they've been shamed into silence, you don't make those concerns go away. if someone's got these concerns about uncontrolled immigration when they call far right and almost battered into submission, you don't suddenly lose those concerns. what happens is you shame them into silence and censorship is the midwife of extremism . so what midwife of extremism. so what you actually do is you push those concerns to the more extreme fringes of public conversation, and a public society, and that is problematic. let me tell you. look, conscious of time. so i'm going to take a quick break right there. i will be back to continue this conversation in two. hi there. i'm michelle dewberry i'm with you until 7:00 tonight. alongside me, i've got shaunr labour minister, and connor tomlinson, the writer and commentator. now, i could tell you it won't surprise you. very divided opinions at home, many people, harry says. i actually feel sorry for keir starmer michelle. he's only been the prime minister for a month and then having to deal with this when you arrive. it would be a rude awakening for anybody. gary says . awakening for anybody. gary says. michelle, what about people like reform uk? why don't they go to the forefront of all of this and organise peaceful protest? and then that way, if someone has got legitimate concerns, they can spread their message without the awful associated violence. he says, simon says the police need to stop all of this. whether or not this policing is to tear or not, it is all covering up the real issues in society and what is actually it going to resolve. marion says it would be good if someone from the labour government listened to what was being said. these riots are happening because no one is lis

i have to say, i work quite closely with shaun bailey , quite closely with shaun bailey, who was theon, and you know, he would have been on this issue a breath of fresh air for the city of london. and it could have been, you know, his, his absolute like zero tolerance kind of, you know , targeting, kind of, you know, targeting, would have been a breath of fresh air, you know, places like london, you know , with sadiq london, you know, with sadiq khan's kind of, you know. well, he's laissez faire. >> he's scared. he said he's scared being a muslim in london. >> conversations. you have to be tough. you have to be so, so tough. you have to be so, so tough on it. it is genuinely scary. and it does link to the debate that we had. you know, it's, you know, the two people who were stabbed in, in leicester square. terrible. they were they were women, you know, so, so all these, you know, so you hear yvette cooper talking tough on language. okay, fine. but actually, should we not be absolutely doing everything we can to get, you know, knives out of people's hands because there is a feeling an

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