of us, but logistically, you know, we have the proof back from a highly visual book the week that shaunaook the bar, and i think she took the bar monday and tuesday and the proofs were due on friday, and she was going to thailand to try to squeeze in a weeks vacation for her clerkship, so we were sitting there on my living room table spreading all-out , and she found out she passed the bar the day the book came out. got a night note to have a nice from justice ginsburg herself, too. >> i also don't do much exercise. you know, people trained for marathons and people don't ask them, how do you do your marathon training with your work. so when i -- but since it is writing and my other book is also writing, it does not look so different, but i like to tell people what is different, like how people trained for the marathon. in my closet typing. >> a good point that jay raises. for lawyers interested in writing fiction, it can be a challenge if your day job also involves writing and editing, which one does as a journalist and blogger. i found it helpful to separate out the blogging, journalism