. >> shawanda hill and it is spelled as shawanda renae hill. >> good morning ms. hill, thank you for being with us today. i just have a few questions about may 25, 2020. you recall that day? >> yes. >> onor that day in the vehicle located in minneapolis and who were you with their. >> george floyd. >> so did you have an opportunity to observe his behavior and observe his demeanor? how would you describe him inside of the car. >> happy, normal, talking, alert. >> thank you. did he offer to give you a ride? >> yes. >> a ride to wherever you were going we met. >> yes. >> did you go to his car when a. >> yes. >> once you got into the car, did you observe any changes to his demeanor? >> well, we were in the car for the first eight minutes and then we were talking and i got a phone call. so i was on the phone for the rest of the time and he fell asleep at that time. >> at some point mr. floyd suddenly was pulled over. and the phone call you received was from her daughter, see were talking with her daughter during that time? >> yes. >> would you agree that you said some

>> oh, man. >> shawanda, you're not helping. once my partners get over here, they can explain you to guys, okay? >> he needs his phone. >> where is his phone? >> in the car. >> i don't want you reaching in the car. >> it's right there on the seat. >> he'll get to his car once he's done with that. his car's not going anywhere. >> his phone is right here. >> don't go into the car. >> it's the front seat, sir. >> i don't want you guys going to the car. that's it. >> [ inaudible ]. >> once my partners come over here you guys can ask. >> [ inaudible ]. >> what? >> go straight, man. it's tight here. you guys good? >> [ inaudible ]. >> officer chang, pausing the video for a second, you would agree that the ambulance appears to be leaving at 1:30:21 z on your body worn cam? >> yes. >> wait for 320. >> [ inaudible ]. >> here's a book, man. are you guys good with [ inaudible ]? >> i'm going to double-check. >> there's a notebook. >> phone in the car? >> he's already gone. he doesn't need his phone. is that his phone? put his phone back. h

>> right here. >> shawanda. >> what was that? stay put. all right, ricardo? >> why is he going to the hospital? >> oh, man. >> shawanda, you are not helping. >> i am just trying to figure out. >> once my partners get over here, they will explain to you. okay? [ inaudible ] >> he needs his phone. >> where is his phone? >> in the car. >> i don't want you reaching in the car. >> it's right there. >> his car is not going anywhere. don't go into the car. i don't want you guys going to the car. that's it. once my partners come over here, you guys can ask, all right? what? going straight, man. tight here. good? >> open the trunk. >> i don't know. >> officer chang, we are pausing the video. it appears that the ambulance is leaving at 1:31:z on your body cam? >> yes. [ inaudible ] >> are you guys -- >> in the car? >> his phone. he's already gone. he doesn't need his phone. is that his phone? >> put it back. >> he's gone already. >> are you sure? >> put his phone back. >> get it. >> what happened? >> no. >> that man took our names. >> id -- >> he said -- >> what? what

we heard from shawanda hill that when they got back in the car they had a conversation and mr. floyd fell asl ey haduble wakg hia ride because they couldn't wake mr. floyd up i they couldn't keep him awake. we heard how mr. martin described mr. floyd when he went back to the car and how he was -- oh, no... and he wasn't speaking, right, and he kept putting his head back and shaking his head. we know from peter chang's body camera that it's described that mr. floyd was dozing off. >> he was falling asleep a little bit but he was waking up. >> we know that whether mr. floyd was chewing gum when he was in the store, we can also heought a banana. a ht so we know when we look at this picture, right, there's something in mr. floyd's mouth. is it gum, banana, drugs? nobody knows h. but regardless of whether it's drugs, bananas or gum in this incident, we know that there were pills in the car. all right. we know that there were drugs in the car. we know those pills were later tested to be a combination of methamphetamine and fentanyl. that's what was in mr. floyd's system is. it's rele

>> right here. >> shawanda -- what was that? >> the one in the store. >> let's stay put, we'll figure it out all right, ricardo. >> oh, my god. >> what's this? why is he going to the hospital? >> oh, man. these guys -- >> shawanda, you're not helping. >> i'm just trying to figure out what's going on. >> once my partners get over here, they can explain to you guys, okay? >> can we get a make on the vehicle? >> where's his phone? >> it's in the car. >> take the car -- i don't want you to reach in the car. >> it's right there in the set. >> he'll get to his car once he's done with that, okay? his car is not going anywhere. >> trying to get a phone. >> yeah. >> don't go into the car. >> it's the front seat, sir i don't want you guys going to the car. that's it. >> what happened to him? i don't know. >> once my partners come over here, you guys can ask. all right? what? >> just go straight, man, it's tight here. you guys good? oh. i don't know. >> officer chang pausing the video for a second to the degree that the ambulance appears t

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shawanda, s-h-a-w-a-n-d-a, h-i-l-l. >> mr. nelson. >> good morning, ms. hill. >> morning. >> thank you for being with us today. i have a few questions about may 25th, 2019, do you remember that date? >> yes. >> and did you run into anybody that you knew while you were at cup foods? >> yes, george floyd. >> while you were at the cup foods or in the cup foods did you have an opportunity to observe mr. floyd's behavior, demeanor, things of that nature? >> yes. >> how would you describe mr. floyd's behavior while inside of the cup foods? >> happy. normal, talking. alert. >> did you -- did he offer to give you a ride? >> yes. >> a ride to wherever it was you were -- >> my house. >> so did you go to his house with him? >> yes. >> once you got into the car did you observe any changes to his demeanor? >> when we were in the car for the first, like, eight minutes, we were talking and, you know, hugging -- you know what i'm saying? talking about what we were about to do. then i got a phone call and i was on the phone for the rest of the time until the little boy ca

. >> was that shawanda hill? >> yes. >> did you know mr. floyd to purchase drugs from miss hill as well? >> no. >> do you recall being asked whether he purchased drugs from miss hill previously? >> i don't remember that, no. >> may i approach the witness? would it refresh your recollection to review a copy of of your transcript? >> yes. >> may i approach? >> this is to refresh your memory. there won't be a question before you at this time. he will go back and ask you a question. >> okay. thank you. >> where does it say -- it says getting drugs from her. >> i need a previous page. >> this is to refresh your memory. there's not a question you need to answer yet. >> it says he is buying drugs from her? >> i will go back. miss ross, does that refresh your recollection? >> yes. but none of that said he was buying drugs from her. >> you were asked, do you know who the woman was that he would have gotten that from and your response was, shawanda hill, right? >> yes. i was speculating at the time. i did not know that. >> understood. and you were as

you can also take into consideration the reactions of shawanda hill and maurie -- >> what is he doing? >> look, they are still -- >> oh, man. what is he doing? >> a nonpolice officer and their reactions to what's happening. but also consider the paramedics, right? the paramedics. they did the load and go, right? derek smith testified he got oust ambulance, he checked all four corners to gauge what was happening, and determined in his words that it was an unwelcoming environment. and he told his partner that they need to move to a different location. a more safe and secure location. remember nicole mckenzie's testimony, too, as unreasonable as it sounds, paramedics get attacked, too. we have all of these different opinions in terms of the use of force. right? we have all of the opinions of seth stoughton, stiger, barry broad, zimmerman, arradondo, david ploeger, lieutenant mercel, and they all reach very different conclusions about when the force became unreasonable. all you have to know about barry broad about what he was talking about is this physically managing any person, his opini

shawanda hill? >> shawanda hill. >> and the other item that he handed you was a minnesota identification card, correct? >> correct. >> with the name of william smythe? >> yes . >> i have no further questions, your honor. >> redirect, please. >> thank you, your honor. sir, you were asked whether you agree with the proposition that sometimes police officers have to do violent things. you agree with that, correct? >> yes. >> but sometimes police officers should not do violent things, isn't that right? >> yes. >> you were asked about the critical thinking model that is used and adopted by the minneapolis police department, correct? >> correct. >> that's a model that requires officers to continually take in information, evaluate it, re-evaluate it, reassess, and if necessary adjust their conduct, correct? >> yes. >> and as you stated under questioning by defense counsel, sometimes the information they're taking in would cause the officer to need to take more drastic measures. fair? >> yes. >> but sometim

speaking publicly for the first time, shawanda hill, the woman in floyd's suv, told the jury he was asleep when the officers approached the vehicle. >> i was like, baby, that's the police. open the door, roll down the window, whatever they told him to do. so he looked back and when he seen the man, the man had the gun at the window when we looked back to him so he instantly grabbed the wheel, and he was like, please, please, don't kill me. please, please, don't shoot me don't shoot me >> reporter: also taking the stand, a minneapolis park police officer who detained hill while other officers restrained floyd the defense played video from his body camera and he testified about the crowd of bystanders. >> very aggressive aggressive towards the officers, yes. >> reporter: then the defense called its own use of force expert. >> i felt that derek chauvin was justified, was acting with objective reasonableness. >> reporter: the prosecution pushed back >> in this moment, was this crowd a threatening crowd? >> no. >> the defense doesn't have to have a great case the prosecution does because the pr

shawanda hill testifying floyd had nodded off in the car and she tried several times to wake him up when the police arrived. >> so he instantly grabbed the wheel and he was like, "please, please, don't kill me. please, please don't shoot me. what did i do? just tell me what i did." >> reporter: and david, the defense is moving through witnesses quickly here, but at this point, there's no indication that derek chauvin would take the stand. david? >> all right, alex perez in minneapolis. alex, thank you. >>> we turn now to news tonight on u.s. troops in afghanistan. president biden is set to announce that all u.s. troops will be out of that country by september 11th, the 20th anniversary of the 9/11 attacks. here's our chief global affairs correspondent martha raddatz tonight. >> reporter: it will be 20 years in october since the u.s. launched those first air strikes on al qaeda targets in afghanistan. and tomorrow, president biden will announce the 2,500 u.s troops still there will be home by the 9/11 anniversary. president trump had hoped to bring all the troops home by the start of next

asked to do you know who the woman was that he would have gotten that from and your response was shawanda hill. >> i was speculating. >> and you were asked does he like getting drugs from her and you said mm-hmm, correct? >> i said that in the transcript, yes. >> the same pills, you ultimately got the same pills from large or similar pills in may of 2020, correct? >> we got pills in may that remain did me of the same feeling. i don't know if they were the same pills or where they came from. >> so you had a second experience with those pills, or a similar feeling from those pills. >> i had a similar experience, yes. >> and that was approximately a week before mr. floyd's passing. >> yes. >> and by similar experience, do you recall telling the fbi that when you had that, you felt like you were going to die? >> i don't remember saying that, but i did see it in the transcript. >> and is that how you felt, like you were going to die? >> i don't remember feeling that way, no. i don't even recall saying that. >> now, you and floyd, mr. floyd, excuse me, assuming like most couples had names for e

>> shawanda hill. >> and the other was an identification card with the name of william. >> yes. i have no further questions, your honor. >> thank you, your honor. you were asked whether you agree with the proposition that sometimes police officers have to do violent things and you agree with that, correct? >> correct. >> but sometimes they should not do violent things, correct? you were asked about the critical thinking model that is used and adopted by the minneapolis police department, correct? and that is acume model that requires officers to>> continuay take information evaluated, reevaluated, reassessed and if necessary, adjust their conduct, correct? >> and as you stated by the defense counsel sometimes the information they are taking and would cause the officer to need to take more drastic measures but sometimes the information the officer. would take would cause them to need to reevaluate what they are doing and use less drastic measures. >> some of the information that might be relevant is whether or not the subject is resisting. to evaluate whether a subject is resisti

you can also take into consideration the reactions of shawanda hill and morris havl. >> he still won't get in the car. just sit down, dude. he they got to push him in this car. he is trying to get out. what is he doing? now he going to jail. all he had to do was -- >> they still fighting him. >> oh, man, what is he doin'? >> non-police officer, and their reactions to what's happening. but also consider the paramedics, right? the paramedics. they did the load and go. right? as derek smith testified he got out of the ambulance. he checked all four corners to gauge what was happening, and determined in his words, that it was an unwelcoming environment. and he told his partner they needed to move to a different location, a more safe and secure location. remember, nicole mackenzie's testimony, too, as unreasonable as it sounds, paramedics get attacked too. we have all of these different opinions in terms of the use of force, right? we have all of the opinions of seth stoughton. jodi staiger. barry broad. zimmerman, aradondo, david pleoger, lieutenant mercil and all reach different conclusio

. >> reporter: the defense called shawanda hill, who was in the car with floyd the day he'd died t had> over and over, he woke up, made a little gesture and nod back off. >> reporter: the defense called one use of force expert, barry broad. >> i felt that derek chauvin was justified, was acting with objective reasonableness. >> reporter: objective reasonableness is a standard defense in police cases. broad said chauvin's actions were what a reasonable officer would do with the subject who was resisting and on drugs. >> people under the influence of drugs may not be hearing what you're trying to ask them to do. they may have erratic behavior. they will feel pain, so techniques you would normally use they're not feeling. >> reporter: then dr. david fowler. his testimony in a nutshell, chauvin did not kill george floyd. other things did. >> in my opinion, mr. floyd had a sudden cardiac arrhythmia or cardiac arrhythmia and his conditions will be heart disease, fentanyl and methamphetamine. >> reporter: he said there was one contributing factor that no medical expert had yet raised. that fl

and your response was shawanda hill? >> yes. >> i was speculating, i didn't know that. >> you said he liked getting drugs from her and you said mm-mmm. >> i said that in the transcript, yes. >> those same pills, you ultimately got some of those same pills from march or similar pills in may of 2020, correct? >> we got pills in may that remind me of the same feeling. i don't know if they were the same pills. i don't know where they came from. >> so you had a second experience with those pills, right? or a similar feeling to those pills? >> i had a similar experience, yes. >> and that was approximately a week before mr. floyd's passing? >> yes. >> and by similar experience, you -- do you recall telling the fbi that when you have that, you fement like you were going to die? >> i don't remember saying that. but i did see it in the transcript. >> is that how you felt, like you were going to die? >> i don't remember feeling that way, no. i didn't -- i don't recall even saying that. >> okay. you and floyd, mr. floyd, excuse me,

. >> reporter: shawanda hill was a friend of george floyd's who was in the car with him in the moments leading to his confrontation with police. >> reporter: who is he to you guys? minutes later hill tried to see what was happening? >> they are still fighting him. oh, man. what is he doing? >> reporter: but some of testimony tuesday went into george floyd's past. >> put them up on the dash. >> reporter: including a portion of a 2019 arrest which the judge allowed because it was similar to the may 2020 confrontation, a confrontation with police followed by a rapid ingestion of drugs. >> reporter: he said he had taken a pill at the time that the overs were arresting him? >> the paramedic was called to the stand. >> reporter: do you recall what his blood pressure was? >> 216 over 160. >> reporter: did you the mattingly make recommendations to transport mr. floyd to the hospital? >> based on that and other issues. >> the prosecutors drew a critical bottom line in their cross-examination? >> he didn't have a stroke while you were with himle? >> no. >> reporter: he was never given narcan, co

we heard from shawanda hill that when they got back in the car, they had a conversation for a few minutes. suddenly mr. floyd fell asleep. all of these things become important. have trouble -- had trouble waking him up. she called her daughter for a ride because they couldn't walk mr. floyd up. they couldn't keep him awake. we heard how mr. martin described mr. floyd when he went back to the car. how he was oh, no. he wasn't speaking, right? he kept putting his head back. shaking his head. we know from peter chang's body camera that maurice hall described that mr. floyd was dozing off. we know that whether mr. floyd was chewing gum while he was in the store, we can also see he was eating a banana. he bought a banana. so we know, when we look at this picture, there's something in mr. floyd's mouth. is it gum? is it a banana, is it drugs. nobody knows. all right? but regardless of whether it's drugs, bananas or gum in this incident, we know that there were pills in the car. right? we know there were drugs in the car. we know those pills were later tested to be a combination of methamphetami

but, it ignores what shawanda hill and maurice hall says, right? that he was, all of a sudden, asleep and difficult to wake up. it ignores the fact that the combination of these two drugs, methamphetamine is a powerful stimulant. fentanyl is a powerful sedative. they use it for surgeries. every-single doctor dismissed, outright, no -- no -- nothing about this case. well, it was only .19 grams -- nanograms per milliliter. it's such a small amount of methamphetamine in his system, it's a vasoconstrictor. it causes the heart's arteries to constrict even tighter. doesn't matter. every-single doctor just brushed it aside. said it would have no effect. i ask, would any of those doctors prescribe illicit methamphetamine to their patients? would they give it to their children? would they give it to their elderly parents, with a 90% blockage of the coronary artery? the right-coronary artery? i guarantee you, the answer is no. dr. rich is the only one who said i would never recommend, to my patients, that they take any amount of illicit methamphetamine. it i

the defense has gone through several witnesses already today, including this woman, this is shawandaill, she told the court floyd was happy and alert when he was inside the convenience store, but then fell asleep in the car. >> the store employees came and approached the car. correct? >> yes. >> and at that point mr. floyd suddenly fell asleep? >> he was already asleep. >> he was already sleeping. >> yes, when they came to the car. and when they came there and tried to wake him up, they tried, i tried over and over and his friend tried to wake him up and he -- he woke up, then he'll say something and made a little gesture, you know, and nodded back off. >> the court is currently in lunch break. let's go live to josh campbell just outside the minneapolis courthouse where this trial entered a new phase this morning. what can you tell us about the defense team's strategy with the witnesses they -- >> one thing they're seeing is they're moving rapidly, that being the defense. we moved through several witnesses already today and this is the first day of the defense laying out their case,

. >> then, kirk, let me ask you about somebody else who took the stand, shawanda hill, a friend of georgeay. why would she be testifying for the defense? >> you know, when i see a witness like this and noting that this witness did not testify for the prosecution, my first instinct tells me is that she's a witness for the defense because for whatever reason the prosecution did not feel that she would have been effective and perhaps advance their case. so the defense is taking a chance that whatever it is that doesn't work for the prosecution is likely going to work for the defense. i don't know how well that worked. certainly, there is this specter of this is another person who was in the car with george floyd and perhaps a person who was also someone who has a problem with drugs. it is no secret that the defense just wants to keep hammering home away this theory that because of george floyd's prior drug use and possibly his associations at some point. he was the cause of his death. i do believe that's the motivation for putting that particular witness on the stand. >> shaq, take us outsid

after the prosecution rested, they called some witnesses who were also at the scene, one of them, shawandag that the fence one to do from the outset was to introduce an arrest video from 2019 about a year before george floyd died and the reason they wanted to do so was to show that he had a pattern of drug use and thejudge to show that he had a pattern of drug use and the judge warned the jury drug use and the judge warned the jury that this was not to be taken to the sign of the character of george floyd but specifically about the impact of drug use on his system, so he allowed limited video to be shunned and we saw a much longer body —— cam and body one camera from police officer 0fficer chang who responded to the scene who responded to the first radio calls when the first officers responding came to the scene and the whole big picture here is that the defence is trying to show that george floyd was a big drug user and also he had underlying health problems and that is what led to his death, that is why they're introducing this new video and bringing back witnesses like paramedic kimberl

you can also take into consideration the reaction of shawanda hill and morries. >> he still isn't getting in the car. just sit down. what is he doing? now he's going to jail. [inaudible] >> they still fighting him. what is he doing? >> not a police officer, and their reactions to what's happening. but also consider the paramedics. the paramedics they did the load and go derek smith testified he got out of the ambulance, checked all four corners to gauge what was happening and determined in his words that it was in unwelcoming environment, and he told his partner they needed to move to a different location, a more safe and secure location. remember nicole mckenzie's testimony as unreasonable as it sounds, paramedics get attacked, too. we have these different opinions of the use of force. the opinions of jodi stiger, zimmerman, lieutenant mercil, and they have all reached very different conclusions about when the force became unreasonable. all you have to know what he was talking about is this physically managing a person. you can use nondeadly force to physically manage a person. it is all

. >> the defense also called shawanda hill to testify. in the suv with floyd the day he died and spoke about his physical state when police arrived. >> he grabbed the wheel and he was, like, please, please, don't kill me. don't shoot me. what did i do? just tell me what i did, please! >> in total the defense called six witnesses with the majority spending less than 30 minutes on the stand, despite the whirlwind, jurors were seen taking lots of notes. medical experts are up next with still no word on whether or not chauvin will testify. >> jamie, thank you. later in this broadcast, attorney benjamin crump will join us. the biden administration has a new deadline to end america's longest war and it is 20 years to the day after the 9/11 attacks that started it. the president plans to announce today that all u.s. combat troops will start leaving afghanistan by may 1st and will be out by september 11th. the trump administration had agreed to a total withdrawal by may 1st in a deal struck with the taliban more than 2300 americans have died in a

shawanda hill was in floyd's vehicle and told jurors he fell asleep in the parked car and she struggled to wake him up when officers arrived. >> i said, the police is here. it's about the $20 bill that wasn't real. i kept saying, baby, get up. when he seen the man, the man had the gun at the window when we looked back to him. so he instantly grabbed the wheel and he was like, please, please, don't kill me. please, please, don't shoot me. >> reporter: and we expect the defense will soon call their own medical experts to testify. robin? >> all right, alex, thank you. we are covering the latest on the trial. you can watch our streaming channel, abc newslive, starting this morning at 10:00 a.m. eastern. >>> we have a lot more coming up here, robin, including a major break in a 25-year-old cold case. a man has been charged with the murder of college student kristin smart. how police say a podcast helped them. >>> our exclusive interview with former bachelor colton underwood. his deeply personal announcement that you'll hear only on "gma" this morning. >>> first let's go to rob in for ginger,

there are several aspects of the statement that are corroborated my miss shawanda hill. so particularly when we're describing mr. floyd reaction in the car, she also describes that mr. floyd fell asleep in the car and was, they had a very difficult time waking him up. so much so that she called her daughter to come pick her up. she made statements about mr. floyd taking percocet. so that is above and beyond that, mr. hall was counseled by his attorney about this case and giving the statement. >> let me just, and maybe this is an argumentative question, though i don't mean it to be. so you are saying that his lawyer who is advising him at the time of this statement advised his client to give a statement that was so far country to his penal interests that it's inadmissible under 8043b? >> to that end ally was a texas law and may not have been familiar with minnesota's third degree homicide statutes. >> fair enough. >> with the state like to answer? mr. frank. >> good morning, your honor, thank you. >> good morning. >> well, i think the court rarely sees sort of the conflic

shawanda little who was in the suv with floyd said he was alert inside the convenience store but fellreporter: a minneapolis park peace officer who detained hill that day also took the stand and testified about the crowd of bystanders >> very aggressive. >> aggressive toward the officers >> yes. >> reporter: another emotional day for floyd's family, who stood outside the courthouse with the family of daunte wright >> it's a time for change, and that time is now >> reporter: it's not clear exactly how many witnesses the defense will call, but the judge has told the jury to expect closing arguments on monday, hoda >> that's the news >>> hoda, you're back, and we're ready for a boost. >> all right, got a good one for you. do you guys remember the scene from that romcom "love actually," the guy holds up the cardboard sign and tells the woman he loves her >> yeah. >> a young woman in england used that technique to share exciting news with her dad. the signs read, what do you get a dad who has everything the answer was a promotion here's what came next. ♪♪ \m\ >> look at his reaction. >> th