will talk more about this than a minute -- into one of hands, which culminated of course indurated shawn brownand his associates at harpers ferry, which to some people really began the civil war. and in that particular case, and also about people who were then, which interesting to me to find this term is used in that period of time, people who read the guerrillas and also took matters of law into their own hands and the kansas plains, where people from missouri but going to kansas and make sure people could vote against the slavery -- couldn't that he can free constitution. this is a time, in other words, this is a time of great change, tremendous change. technological terms of the law, people's attitudes towards one another and the belief that precedes this period, the certainly culminates and you could change everything. you could change your poetry. you could change your prose. i remember at my dickinson. she is of course the freshest voice in american literary chair even today. you think of herman melville changing the shape of the novel. he changed it so much in fact in 1858, 1851 "moby