the securities and exchange commission coming out and saying we will be charging shawn egan and egan-jonesor what they call material misrepresentations and omissions in the company's application to register as a ratings agency. that news coming out right now. obviously, just breaking. we're going to give you more as it comes on. that news coming from the sec in washington, d.c., as we speak. >>> all right. moving on, is college worth it? do high-priced degrees really pay off in the long run? kelly evans breaks it down for us right now. >> that's right, brian. i'll do my best. let's check out the state today of student loans. as you can see from the large ticking clock behind me, student loan debt has reached over $1 trillion. greater than the amount of credit card debt outstanding, greater than the amount of auto len debt outstanding. for many households student loan debt second only to mortgages in terms of the size of what they owe. what we're talking about for the new normal. $23,000 on average. that's what your typical borrower owes. for younger borrowers, it's a bigger amount, even. i