with shawn hornbeck, people asked him, are you shawn hornbeck?aid no. >> people need to get involved if they have a suspicion. thank god for mr. ramsey, he got involved, he helped them girls get out. he could have turned an ear, they would have still been in there. >> that's really critical. and getting -- you built a new life. >> yes. zblo do you -- that process has got to take a long time. >> it's going to take a lot with the girls. we went through intense therapy, me and my children. it took a long time before i could use my voice and come out and talk to other women. once i did, i started helping and volunteering with different organizations. that kind of was a healing process for me. >> it's great to see you again. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. lori cowan, amazing story. >>> shawn hornbeck was abducted when he was 11 years old, held captive for four and a half years before he was rescued. i'll speak with him about how he was able to put his life back together after his ordeal. next. all business purchases. so you can capture your recei

and the neighbor said to him, you look just like shawn hornbeck, are you shawn hornbeck?e laughed it off, and she just went about her business. >> there's a whole bunch of psychological trauma, and it will be interesting to dissect all these cases. we learn from each and every one of them, absolutely. we learn more overall. the national center does a phenomenal job. >> our forensic psychologist and police psychologist. you've studied this. it's amazing how quickly people can be kind of broken down and become resigned to their new environment, resigned to being a hostage. >> yes. >> it happens very, very quickly. >> yes. it can happen within sometimes minutes in hostage situations, hours, days, weeks, depending upon what a person is being subjected to, and tlds such horrific things that these offenders sometimes do, it is understandable how a victim might get to that place. but if they're watching, it can be very empowering and counteract those dysfunctional messages that a manipulative perpetrator is giving. >> it's the survival mode. you go into survival mode. two things

and the neighbor said to him, you look just like shawn hornbeck, are you shawn hornbeck?ughed it off, and she just kind of went about her business. >> there's a whole bunch of psychological trauma, and it will be interesting to dissect all these cases. and we learn. we learn from every one of them. absolutely. we learn more overall. the national center does a phenomenal job. >> chris -- our forensic psychologist and police psychologist. you've studied this. it's amazing to me how quickly people can be kind of broken down and become resigned to their new environment, resigned to being a hostage. >> yes. >> it happens very, very quickly. >> yes. it can happen within sometimes minutes in hostage situations, hours, days, weeks, depending upon what a person is being subjected to, and there's such horrific things that these offenders sometimes do, it is understandable how a victim might get to that place. but if they're watching, it can be very empowering and counteract those dysfunctional messages that a manipulative perpetrator is giving. >> it's the survival mode. you go int

with shawn hornbeck, people asked him, are you shawn hornbeck and he said no.people have a suspicion, they should pick up a phone. >> people need to get involved. and thank god for mr. ramsey. he got involved. he helped the girls get out. he could have turned an ear, shut the door. they would have still been in there. >> and angel cordaro, the first one who ran across the street, that's really critical. >> exactly. >> you built a new life. >> yes. >> do you -- that process has got to take a long time. >> it's going to take a lot. even with the girls. we went through intense therapy, almost eight years of therapy with me suspect my children. it took a long time before i could use my voice and talk to other women. and once i did, i started helping and started volunteering with different organizations. but that kind of was a healing process for me. >> laura, great to see you again. >> thank you, mr. cooper he. thank you so much. okay, sir. >> amazing story. up next, shawn hornbeck abducted when he was 11 years old, held captive for about four and a half years befo

and the neighbor said to him, you look just like shawn hornbeck, are you shawn hornbeck?nd he laughed it off, and she just kind of went about her business. >> there's a whole bunch of psychological trauma, and it will be interesting to dissect all these cases. and we learn. we learn from every one of them. absolutely. we learn more overall. the national center does a phenomenal job. >> chris -- our forensic psychologist and police psychologist. you've studied this. it's amazing to me how quickly people can be kind of broken down and become resigned to their new environment, resigned to being a hostage. >> yes. >> it happens very, very quickly. >> yes. it can happen within sometimes minutes in hostage situations, hours, days, weeks, depending upon what a person is being subjected to, and there's such horrific things that these offenders sometimes do, it is understandable how a victim might get to that place. but if they're watching, it can be very empowering and counteract those dysfunctional messages that a manipulative perpetrator is giving. >> it's the survival mode. yo

and the neighbor said to him, you look just like shawn hornbeck, are you shawn hornbeck? off, and she just went about her business. >> there's a whole bunch of psychological trauma, and it will be interesting to dissect all these cases. we learn from each and every one of them, absolutely. we learn more overall. the national center does a phenomenal job. >> our forensic psychologist and police psychologist. you've studied this. it's amazing how quickly people can be kind of broken down and become resigned to their new environment, resigned to being a hostage. >> yes. >> it happens very, very quickly. >> yes. it can happen within sometimes minutes in hostage situations, hours, days, weeks, depending upon what a person is being subjected to, and there's such horrific things that these offenders sometimes do, it is understandable how a victim might get to that place. but if they're watching, it can be very empowering and counteract those dysfunctional messages that a manipulative perpetrator is giving. >> it's the survival mode. you go into survival mode. two things. elizabe

we saw shawn hornbeck. he saved himself. but at some point, amanda must have said this is my window. this is my window of opportunity to puts my life at risk, my child, that they think it's the child fathered by this guy, only speculation, but, at some point, she must have bent i've got to take this chance. it's just incredible. >> and what ku p ccan you tell given the very limted information that we have at this point: >> this is a very, very sick pervert. he kept three people in that house that should have been somewhere else. three people who should have been with their parents, the two teenagers. michelle knight, nobody is talking about her. people always assume that a 20-year-old woman decided to run away. but he's a per vert. he did mechanic horrible. he did something horrible. he took those girls from their families abnd i hope to god he pays the ultimate price for this. >>> john, thank you very much. later on, we're going to be talking to psychologists that tell us what is it that allow human beings to get in these s

. >> in 2007, gina's parents found renewed hope when shawn hornbeck was found alive. >> you never give never. because you never know. >> we could bring my child home, or amanda berry, or anyone that saw anything happen to that child. >> little did they know their daughters were miles away. now there was the vaguist hints. the bpadlocked door is seen her. listen to the daughter here -- >> skied if i could see my room, and he said there's so much junk up there, you don't want to go up there. >> not junk, but prisoners. castro would trick the women, pretending to leave, only to beat them if there was any sign they tried to escape. an initial report said knight became pregnant five times in captivity. each time, castro starved her for two weeks and punched her repeatedly in the stomach. there was one that was different. amanda berry was allowed to keep her child. she gave birth to castro's daughter in a plastic pool. it sounds diabolical. >> the ariel i knew, if you asked me last week, i would have told you he is the best dad and grandpa. all of these weird things i noticed over the years,

another prominent victim shawn hornbeck who vanished in missouri in 2002 and found alive four years later offered advice. >> your family's your strongest thing. that would be my advice to know that they're always there for you. >> i've got to tell you, there was not a dry eye around here as they were witnessing those two girls coming home yesterday. the third girl, we don't know much about michelle knight. at least right now we don't. she was the first to be kidnapped. according to police reports she delivered amanda berry's six years ago and even revived the newborn with mouth to mouth resuscitation when she stopped breathing. listen to reports when they arrived at the home monday. they instantly knew. and michelle knight leaped into one of their arms. >> this has got to be for real. >> others in the house. >> we found them! we found them! we also have a michelle knight in the house. i don't know if you want to look that up in the system. 32 years old. >> michelle knight's mother said that she searched for her daughter on her own for years because she believes police gave up on the case.

. >> i know when shawn hornbeck was found, a young man who was held captive for 4 1/2 years, they wereviewed saying that it gave them hope to keep moving forward. >> yep, you got that. it did. it did. >> what was that moment like? we saw gina coming home yesterday. i saw you in the video, as well. just to see her stepping through that door? >> it was a miracle. i mean, i just can't explain it. i can't explain it. it's hard to believe. it's still kind of surreal. but, every day, we're, like, yeah. god heard us and she's hear. >> and your faith has kept you going. >> yeah. >> i've talked to a lot of people who have had in experience coming back. and all of them say it's important not to pressure the person to talk, just let them in their own time. is that what you guys are doing? >> that's why we want space. we want her to acclimate with, you know, being able to sit outside and enjoy the wind and hear the birds. people don't understand that. shame on them. i hope it never happens to them. never. go ahead, sorry. >> we just want her to be with her family and get to know us again, as well.

you and i talked years ago about a case in missouri, shawn hornbeck, who was kidnapped at 11 years olden he got older, michael devlin who has been convicted in the case, kidnapped a younger boy, ben owenby. everybody kidnapped hornbeck and say why didn't you come forward? try to escape? he was enticed by toys, computers. he said people forget that i was terrified to escape. you only have to listen to amanda on that 911 tape saying help me please before he comes back. he was a cunning guy who was able to keep three adult women and hide them in plain sight. i don't know why anybody is surprised at that. >> he was apprehended at a local mcdonald's. we'll take another quick break and be right back. ...but you still have to go to the gym. ♪ the one and only, cheerios ♪ the one and only, cheerios i've got a nice long life ahead. big plans. so when i found out medicare doesn't pay all my medical expenses, i looked at my options. then i got a medicare supplement insurance plan. [ male announcer ] if you're eligible for medicare, you may know it only covers about 80% of your part b medical expe

. >> reporter: shawn hornbeck lost his childhood. >> held captive for 4 1/2 years. >> reporter: whenducted another boy it was a critical break when police found both boys. hornbeck has launched a missing children foundation. >> see something, say something. >> this is jaycee dugard. >> reporter: kidnapped at age 11, held for 18 years. by philip garrido and his wife nancy in northern california. garrido fathered two children with his victim. dugard lived as a prisoner in plain sight until a local police officer's suspicions tracked her to a secret backyard compound. >> if you see something that looks wrong or amiss, speak out. it might be wrong. but you might save someone's life. >> reporter: dugard's mother told piers morgan joy and heartache follow a kidnapped child's return. >> nothing is normal after something like this happens to you and you have to accept that fact and move forward. >> reporter: these survivors moving ahead after living lives once frozen in fear. >>> it may take weeks before we know what caused a fire in a limousine that killed a bride to be and five women at he

. >> same thing with shawn hornbeck. and even after michael devlin kidnapped dawn omby, they are in fear. they are in fear because they are threatened with their lives, their family lives are threatened. their families' lives are threatened as well. they are threatened with food. threatened with all types of different things. and so they do become attached, unfortunately, to the abductor. and there is a connection made there. and at this point from what we have learned so far, it anears these men may have been the only person that they knew, that they knew and depended on to get food or resources or anything of that nature. of course they will obey. we may learn more about, i cover so many of the sex slave cases. and so how these women and the mind-set that goes into all of this, and how they are brain washed and taken under and held captive. >> all right, thank you very much. peter krouse, thank you as well. we will bring you developments as the police bring it. next on "news nation" -- >> these witnesses deserve to be

. >> reporter: shawn hornbeck lost his childhood to kidnapper michael devlin in missouri. >> i was heldtive for 4 1/2 years. >> reporter: when devlin abducted another boy, ben ownby, it was the critical break as police tracked devlin to his apartment and found both boys. hornbeck has since launched his own missing children's foundation. >> reach out. if you see something, say something. reach out to someone. >> hi. this is jaycee dugard. >> reporter: that's the same message from jaycee dugard. you know her from this picture when she's 11. that's when she was kidnapped, held for 18 years by phillip garrido and his wife, nancy, in northern california. garrido fathered two children with his victim. dugard lived as a prisoner in plain sight, until a local police officer's suspicions tracked her to a secret back yard compound. she is also a victims advocate. >> if you see something that looks wrong or amiss, speak out. you might be wrong, but you might just save someone's life. >> reporter: in a statement about the cleveland victims, dugard says, "this isn't who they are. it is only what hap

. >> reporter: what happened to shawn hornbeck. she was kidnapped by michael devlin.he tried to strangle the boy, promised never to escape or tell the truth. he kept a word. not a move for four years until police discovered him. >> he felt somewhat guilty he could kochts get away. i told him everything he did was right. jaycee dugard was held 18 years telling diane her captor's grip was so strong she never tried to flee. >> my manipulation plus the physical abuse i suffered in the beginning, there was no leaving. >> reporter: dugard told diane she felt guilty for bonding with garrido. >> the abductor will be their own connection to the outside world and they may even on some levels look forward to seeing them. >> your whole world is crashing down around you. >> reporter: elizabeth smarts with held by brian david mitchell and was too afraid to attempt to escape. >> they don't don't have a life experience to counter what the bad guy is telling them. >> reporter: in this indicate, those will created a sort of family of their own inside that house and in the hours afterwa

in a moment we'll talk to shawn hornbeck kidnapped and held for four years.nbc's tom costello. >> what an amazing time to be talking about hope with everything that's happening. >> reporter: there are a few stories as harrowing as jaycee dugard. she was 11 when she was kidnapped in 1991. for 18 years she lived in the backyard of her abductors, philip and nancy garrido, giving birth to two daughters fathered by garrido. today she is resilient. >> i'd like all of us to remember to just ask yourself to care. >> reporter: elizabeth smart was just 14 when she was kidnapped from her home in salt lake city. for nine months she was held and sexually abused by a drifter and his wife. >> i felt crushed. who could want me now? i felt so dirty and so filthy. i understand so easily all too well why someone wouldn't run, because of that alone. >> reporter: last week she talked about the fear that kept her from trying to escape. >> i'd watched them abuse me for so long, what was going to stop them from killing me? what was going to stop them from killing my family? >> repor

for example, shawn hornbeck was kidnapped by a man named michael devlin in 2002. se as his captor's son for more than four years. shawn was rescued when he was 15 years old and reunited with his family. and, of course, one of the most famous cases ever here, the abduction and rescue of this woman, elizabeth smart. she was 14 years old when she was kidnapped from her own bed, in her utah home, held captive for nine months. her father, ed smart, talked to cnn early today. >> i think they're going to be trying to find their new place, you know, their new -- i'm sure that they wonder how they're going to be accepted by their families, and, you know, how they're going to move forward and what does this mean to the people that kidnapped them? but to be free at this point is just, i mean, three miracles. what a wonderful opportunity for them to be reunited with their family. >> and we have put together all these remarkable stories, they're featured on cnn.com, so make sure you check that out on our home page. >>> coming up next, we just got an interview with the neighbor

reporter: as these three women begin to reclaim their lives, another prominent kidnapping victim, shawn hornbeck, who vanished in missouri in 2002 and found alive more than four years later, offered some advice to these brave women. >> your family is your strongest thing. that would be my advice, just to know that they are always there for you. >> so not much is known about michelle knight. she was the first of the three victims to be kidnapped back in 2002. and according to a police incident report, she delivered, amanda berry's daughter, six years ago and under a threat of death from castro, she even revived the newborn with mouth to mouth resuscitation when that infant had stopped breathing. michelle knight's mother says she searched for her daughter on her own for years because she believes police gave up on the case. barbara knight now living in florida is hope for a reunion even though the relationship with her daughter was already fractured before she went missing. >> i'm thrilled. and all i want to do is hug her and say i love you and i'm glad it wasn't you that died. it really hurts bec