shawn parcells stepped into the media spotlight back in august when he assisted famed pathologist dr. the private autopsy commissioned by the brown family attorneys. well, now there are serious questions regarding parcells' credentials. he's not even a doctor. my legal panel is back. and, boy, you know, we watched this, all three of us, were kind of incredulous by what we were seeing here. i'll start with you, paul, do you think that this makes any difference, any impact on the testimony and what we've learned the outcome of michael brown's death? >> well, i've always been disturbed about the fact that there were too many autopsies that had been done in this case in the first place because, you know, when you try a case, you're always afraid your experts are going to be in constrict with one another. you want to have a nice clean presentation and now this, of course, is just going to add to it because he's obviously a fraud and a phony and it's going to put badden's whole autopsy into substantial doubt leaving only the medical examiner and, of course, there was yet another autopsy tha

his name is shawn parcells. he assisted in one of the autopsies on michael brown's body back in august. now people are accusing him of being a fraud. why he says that's actually not true. later this hour. >>> it is getting cheaper to fuel up your car these days. i have certainly noticed. and especially after oil prices hit four-year lows on thursday. the plunge followed opec's decision to maintain oil production levels despite a 30% decline in prices since june. this was a departure for the cartel, which usually cuts production to drive prices up. >> there was pressure to make that cut as well. but opec's largest member, saudi arabia, was firmly against it. this all comes as bad news for oil-producing nations that desperately need the cash that would have been generated by higher prices. but opec's secretary-general says there's no need to worry. >> four years or four years and a half we have a very decent price. so now price decline. that does not mean we should really rush and do something. we have to wait and

we'll hear what shawn parcels has to say about those accusations against him. >>> we want to go now to turkey where pope francis is in the final stages of his three-day visit. right now he's offering a public blessing. you're looking at live pictures by the way. he's with the spiritual leader of orthodox christians in istanbul, turkey. >> earlier, pope francis met privately with turkey's chief rabbi as part of his push for interfaith dialog and understanding. arwa damon is live with more on the pope's trip. if you could tell us, what is the impact the pope's presence is having there in that predominantly muslim country? >> reporter: well, the core message from the pope's visit has been one of unity, whether it's unity across the different schools within christianity or perhaps more importantly at this vital stage in history in the need for unity and interfaith dialog between christians and muslims. as for reaction, we heard from president erdogan during the pope's first day, with erdogan saying that he, at least, believed that the pope's visit would have a positive impact on muslims. t

shawn parcells said he never told the deputies he was a doctor. >> if they want to think i'm a doctorhat's their issue. people assume stuff all the time, and they may never ask. it's -- it's bad that they're assuming and they never ask. >> parcells, who has a bachelors degree, said he's supervised by medical doctors, but sometimes they're not present when he performs an autopsy procedure. >> so you do autopsies where there's not a pathologist or an m.d. anywhere in the room? >> at times. sometimes a pathologist is there and sometimes they're not. >> you're not an m.d. >> i'm not an m.d. >> but it's legal for you to cut up bodies, take organs out, make observations. >> yes. >> this, even though a letter on his own company's letterhead states unequivocally, during each and every forensic autopsy conducted, the attending pathologist is present at all times. we always have the attending pathologist present and directing the autopsy examination. and if you think that's shocking, the owner of this funeral home says parcells promised to arrange for an autopsy on the remains of an unidentifie

as i said, shawn parcells assisted dr.odden in that autopsy, here is what he told me a short time ago. >> is it your understanding the request for dr. bodden came from someone in the grand jury room? >> it is my understanding that the grand jury had made a request that they wanted to hear, our results are from an independent autopsy. don't know what happened or when that happened in the process of things, but i also know that then also then crump had to push for dr. bodden to be able to come testify today finally allowed. >> today michael brown family attorneys said dr. bodden found one additional piece of evidence that a chest wound he thought was a re-entry wound is now determined to be an entry wound. can you confirm that. if so, what is the particular significance of that? >> well, he's probably -- in fact, he's talking about the wound to the right upper clavicle right here in this region. we had originally thought that the bullet continuation from the head wound above the right eye came out and re-entered. and now it

i mean, that's the best word i would say to describe shawn parcells to me. >> how about you?manipulator. >> very good con artist, is the way i'd put it. >> reporter: in missouri, deputies sheriff grant gillett and dustin jeffers said he performed an autopsy without a doctor present. so he presented himself as a pathologist, as a medical doctor? >> that is correct. >> reporter: and he seemed believable? >> yes. >> reporter: you two are both experienced law enforcement officers, and even you were duped? >> that's right. >> reporter: the deputies say without a medical doctor's signature on robert forrester's autopsy report, it's not valid. >> it's been more than two years since the crime. can you move forward with the prosecution? >> we cannot move forward with that case at this time at all. >> reporter: why not? >> the autopsy was not performed legally, so we cannot use any evidence found from the autopsy in a court of law to be used, to prosecute any suspects on the case. >> caller: that means, according to the deputies, bobby forrester, suspected of killing his grandfather, w

that's the best word i would say to describe shawn parcells to me. >> and you?> manipulator. >> very good con artist, is the way i'd put it. >> in missouri, deputy sheriff's grant gillett and dustin jefrs says shawn parcells performed an autopsy in a criminal case without a doctor present. >> so he introduced himself as a pathologist, as a medical doctor? >> that is correct. >> and he seemed believable? >> very much so, yes. >> i mean, you too are both experienced law enforcement officers, and even you were duped. >> that's right. >> reporter: the deputies say without a medical doctor's signature on robert forrester's autopsy report, it's not valid. >> it's been more than two years since the crime. can you move forward with the prosecution? >> we cannot move forward at this time with that case at all. >> why not? >> because the autopsy was not performed legally, so we cannot use any evidence found from the autopsy in a court of law, to be used, to prosecute any suspects on the case. >> reporter: that means according to the deputies, bobby forrester, suspected of

he said it was proprietary. >> i see him as a fraud to describe shawn parcells to me. >> manipulator.> very good con artist. is the way i put it. >> reporter: in missouri grant and justin say shawn parcells performed an autopsy procedure in a criminal case without a doctor present. >> so he introduced himself as a pathologist, as a medical doctor? >> that is correct. >> and he seemed believable. >> very much so, yes. >> i mean, you two are both experienced law enforcement officers. and even you were duped. >> that's right. >> the deputies say without a medical doctor's signature on robert forrester's autopsy report, it's not valid. >> it's been more than two years since the crime. can you move forward with the prosecution. >> we cannot move forward with that case at all. >> why not? >> because the autopsy was not performed legally. we cannot use any evidence found from the autopsy in a court of law to be used to prosecute any suspects on the case. >> that means, according to the deputies, bobby forrester, suspected of killing his grandfather, was set free, and he went on to beat up hi

shawn parcels never told the deputies he was a doctor.they want to think they are a doctor, that's their issue. people assume stuff all the time and they never ask. it's bad that they are assuming and that they never ask. >> parcels who has a bachelors degree says he is supervised by medical doctors but sometimes they are not present when he performed an autopsy procedure. >> so you do them when there's no md in the room. >> at times. they are there and sometimes they are not. >> you're not an m.d. >> i'm not an m.d. >> but it's legal for you to be cutting up bodies. taking organs out and making observations. >> during each and every autopsy conducted, the attending pathologist is present at all times. we always have the pathologist present and directing the examination. >> if you think that's shocking, the owner of this funeral home promised to arrange an autopsy for an unidentified body. he didn't show up for weeks and maggots appeared. where is that body now? >> he says he has not heard from parcels in more than a year. >> when we aske

. >> now shawn parcells -- >> even here on cnn. >> thank you very much. >> he's appeared in the mediad again as a forensic pathology expert. we know he assisted dr. michael bodin in the private autopsy commissioned by brown's family. he said he wras a good assistan. he's not a doctor. he calls himself a forensics medical consultant, and a professor, but is he what he says he is? >> you call yourself a professor? >> yes. >> where are you a professor? >> i'm an adjunct professor in topeka, kansas. >> but that, as far as we can tell, wasn't accurate. >> we contacted the university. they said while he has spoken to nursing students, he's not now and has never been an adjunct professor there. >>washburn says it wasn't true. >> i have a contract that says it is true. >> can you show us that? >> he never showed us that. he said it was proprietary. >> i say fraud. that's the best word to describe him to me. >> how about you? >> manipulator. >> very good con artist. >> grant and justin said shawn parcells performed an autopsy procedure in a criminal case without a doctor present. >> so he intr

that's the best word i would say describes shawn parcels to me. >> very good con art cyst the way i put it. >> reporter: in missouri, deputy sheriffs say shawn parcels performed an autopsy procedure in a criminal case without a doctor present. >> reporter: he introduced him as a pathologist, as a medical doctor? >> that is correct. >> reporter: and he seemed believable. >> very well. >> yes. >> i mean, you two are both experienced law enforcement officers, and even you were doouped. >> that's right. >> reporter: the deputies say without a medical doctor's signature on robert forester's autopsy report, it's not valid. >> reporter: it's been more than two years since the crime. can you move forward with the prosecution? >> we cannot move forward at this time with that case at all. >> reporter: why not. >> because the autopsy was knots performed legally. so we cannot use any evidence found from the autopsy in a court of law to be used to prosecute any suspects on the case. >> reporter: that means, according to the deputies, bobby forester, suspected

shawn parcells was an assistant in the private autopsy done for brown's family. he says he's a forensic pathology expert and a professor at washburn univerity. but parcells isn't a doctor... he has only a bachelor's degree. and the university says he's not on the faculty. parcells says, sometimes he performs autopsies with no licensed pathologist in the room. taking a look at the *other top stories this morning. the bears two- game winning streak is over... along with their playoff hopes. they got off to a fast start in detroit, with two touchdowns from alshon jeffery in the first quarter. but the lions answered with 390 passing yards from matthew stafford and two touchdowns to calvin johnson. bears lose 34-17 and fall to five- and- seven. illinois' governor's mansion needs some fixing up. and incoming governor bruce rauner says he'll pay for it, out of his own pocket. rauner and his wife toured the mansion last week, and say it has major water damage. the new first couple will pay for some of the repairs, and try to raise money for the rest of the repair bill, w

the family contributed to this in part, at least their lawyers did because they brought in shawn parcel, a medical investigator who turns out to be a fraud who was on many of the networks usual approximating this narrative of being shot in the back and then, of course, that got refuted. so the media played into this because it fit their narrative. msnbc did a horrible job. cnn did not do a great job. fox, to our credit, did a much more fair job of presenting the fact, and were attacked for demanding the due process play out. >> there has been conflicting testimony now that we see. there was also forensic evidence he was not shot in the back. but was he charging the officer, was he not? but the problem in those early weeks -- and i talked about this at the time, is that darren wilson wasn't telling his side. neither was the ferguson police department. so the people the media had access to were michael brown's family, his allies, and people sympathetic to him, but that did create or foster a one-sided view. >> and is that the media's fault or the fact that those people chose not to tell t

television weeks and weeks ago and characterized exactly what his science told him, and his associate shawns parcels, i want you to listen to his associate with bodden standing next to him, talking about that science, the bullet wound through an arm and what it tells us about where michael brown's hands were, whether he was looking at the shooter or whether he was walking away from the shooter. have a listen. >> that wound occurred from him walking away and then he turns around. it's consistent with that. however, understand too that while the shot could have come from the back, because if i'm standing here walking along and get shot from that direction, you see i pull my arm up, it's in that same general area, the arm is a mobile part of your body so it also could have occurred when he was putting his hands up. >> mel robsens, i'm hearing the science saying it could go either way and that is the advocate's autopsy. >> yes. and, in fact, that it the exact issue in this case. every single piece of evidence and point of fact could go either way. do hands up mean i'm surrendering or lunging toward you.