morgan, logan, luke and her estranged husband shawn perry in the crash that killed sick people in the superstition mountains. when we come back a little bit more about the crash, the causes of the crash, what led to it and the incredible chain of circumstances of which maybe if one had been missing everyone would have made it down south to safford that author of the new book, angels >>> karen perry is my guest on newsmaker sunday. she lost her three children, three young children and her estranged husband on the flight that crashed into the superstitions four years ago right now around thanksgiving it was thanksgiving eve. images from the mountain we didn't know what had happened. i was on the air and kari and i were on the air. you were first made aware of the phone call but you had a little stirring when you tried or were waiting for a text or a message from your kids saying we made it. we were in safford of the flight was to go from falcon field to safford. they were going to spend thanksgiving with your husband. >> exactly. i had sent a text and my said did you make it in okay and

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claims the lives of six people on board including karen perry and luke and her estranged husband, shawn perry. two others killed on board, joseph hardy and joseph hardwick. as we see those images and see the charred area of the superstitions, the glorious superstitions where these six souls perished, i think the whole community felt this so profoundly on the eve of thanksgiving in 2011. four years later karen perry is still coming to terms with this about the loss and the horrific heartache she has been through, but she is a survive. karen perry is our guest this week on newsmaker sunday. great to see you. you and i struck up afriendship throughout this you have been through a lot. karen has chronicles this through the book angels three, the karen perry story. i had no idea how much you had been through before all of this happened. two battles of cancer. infertility issues. a pretty hard scrabble childhood where you lost your sister at a young age. been through a lot. do you ever wonder, karen, why me? >> of course i wondered why me. but i've had time now to reflect and to process and to turn