great to have all you guys here today. [ applause ] and shawn, i know you're shawn spicer. i know that anyway. but let me start with you. republicans are fighting right now, particularly in the house and senate, over whether or not to defund obama care, even if it means shutting down significant portions of the government. good idea, bad idea? >> i think in general it's a good idea. our party is united as far as getting rid of obama care. we recognize the fact that more americans are losing their health care, costs are going up. the problems continue with the imation of obama. what i think we have a robust difference on is the tactic on how to make that happen. some people believe that we can defund it through the continuing resolution process. some people believe that you're not able to do that because of the way the funding is structured in terms of mandatory spending. i think if we can get resolution that it can be done i think most republicans agree that we should defund it. but there's a healthy debate as to what is the most effective way to do it. and that's where the

great to have all you guys here today. [ applause ] and shawn, i know you're shawn spicer. i know that anyway. but let me start with you. republicans are fighting right now, particularly in the house and senate, over whether or not to defund obama care, even if it means shutting down significant portions of the government. good idea, bad idea? >> i think in general it's a good idea. our party is united as far as getting rid of obama care. we recognize the fact that more americans are losing their health care, costs are going up. the problems continue with the imation of obama. what i think we have a robust difference on is the tactic on how to make that happen. some people believe that we can defund it through the continuing resolution process. some people believe that you're not able to do that because of the way the funding is structured in terms of mandatory spending. i think if we can get resolution that it can be done i think most republicans agree that we should defund it. but there's a healthy debate as to what is the most effective way to do it. and that's where the

saying, just saw the segment with shawn spicer. had to laugh out loud.y what you expect it is, all talk and no action. while the republicans talk about this and newt gingrich is talking about hope and we need a more hopeful message, it is good talk, but where's the action? >> people like shawn spicer and other leaders of the party want them to move. the problem is it's the politico -- top politico story, eve of destruction, a little mellow dramatic, but talking about the republicans, all the things it that you go talk to republican leaders that are in charge in washington, d.c. or that want to be in charge in 2016. off the record, robert gibbs, they're more depressed and more down today. mike allen and -- wrote this article. then they were after barack obama's re-election. that things have gotten even worse inside the party. >> i guess in some ways i find that hard to believe. i guess they thought they were going to win in 2012 and that didn't happen. it is clear, i don't think the party will have a standard bearer for quite some time. they're going to h

. >> joining me now live from boston is shawn spicer, communications director for the rnc. good morning. great to have you here. >> what's your react to newt gingrich's comments. is the republican party going to listen to that? because it seems as if he's almost calling them out for bucking the rnc's list of goals after the spring autopsy of 2012. >> specifically on obama care what the speaker went on to say while the republicans have solutions on health care he believes they should be wrapped up in a comprehensive way to pose a clear alternative to obama care as opposed to resolutions that address specific aspects of health care. the broader point, we can walk and chew gum at the same time. be critical after the current demonstration of democrats and liberals but we need to present america with a much more positive image which our party is better for freedom. for opportunity for every american that's something we'll continue to work on. >> since the spring autopsy, what specifically have republicans done to institute the rnc's band-aid that came out of that? there was the