. >>> but first, on andrew mccabe's fires, let's turn to shawn sullivan from "the washington post." let's start with the major allegation for mccabe against the administration spp there any way to see this as a non-political move? >> well, if you look at the circumstances of this dismissal coming late on a friday night, coming just hours, really, before mr. mccabe had been planning to retire, this is going to raise a lot of questions, i think, from both parties. and from neutral observers about what happened here. just the circumstances of it alone. it was no secret leading up to this that trump was not a fan of mr. mccabe. had questioned his political motivations. and so there are a lot of political questions here about whether this was a political decision, why this happened the way it did late on a friday night right before he was about to leave. this is only going to, i think, you know, give rise to more of those questions and raise questions about the overall political motivations potentially of people inside the administration. >> julia, the president has been very open about

. >> let's bring in pema leavy and shawn sullivan. all right, guys. 36 hours in counting to that interview. a lot of people are counting do to this one. i want to start with you, shawn, and ask whether or not there's a sense the white house knows what will come from this interview and if they're making plans on how to deal with it. >> you know, it's not clear they do have a concrete plan for how to deal with it. when you look at the way the situation has unfolded over the past few weeks, there's been an effort to sort of distance this from the president himself. we've seen a lot of back and forth from lawyers on both sides. from the president's lawyer, from daniels' lawyer. when you have a details television interview like this, you'll have a lot of americans tuning in. you'll have a detailed account from her perspective what happened. that's going to elevate the story to a new level. a lot of americans have been looking at the story saying, i kind of know what's going on with this case. i've heard different things. but this is a chanc