the case of a 9-year-old flores and her four raul were killed by the hands of shawna ford and jason bush, all members of the minutemen defense organization in arizona. the florezes were murdered in their own home as being robbed. she was 9 when she pleaded for help and shot dead at her home. if senate bill 1070 has been successful in anything, mr. chairman, it has been successful in breaking up the families by separating hard, working immigrant parents from their children and limiting the success of our latino students. these parents and children live in fear every day. fear of being separated from each other. it is common practice for parents to teach their children a phone number of a family member that they can trust in the event that the parents get socked away in one of sheriff arpaio's raids in phoenix. mr. chairman, members, the state of arizona has dealt with a lot of anti-immigration type legislation. the most recent was a ballot initiative that preceded senate bill 1070 requiring undocumented students to pay out-of-state tuition. the dream act has been exactly that, only a drea

back to the case in two thousand and nine when one of the members of the arizona minutemen a woman shawna forde she was convicted of killing two people one of them a nine year old girl who pleaded with her not to shoot him or she did and the girl's father for i guess thought she would find drugs in the home and she didn't so she shot her own her father who by the way were u.s. citizens how in this case would arizona officials make sure that these volunteers who will be carrying guns are not determined to harm people they say that they thought fact who haven't been tried in any sort of court of law. no that's right i mean when we mention this story to people the story of missing a florist a little girl who was shot by these former minutemen in arizona is what comes up now supporters of the special missions unit which is being proposed say that they have a very rigorous vetting process that they will mostly be attracting former military members who are very well trained in surveillance and in arms however even the founder of the minutemen himself who inspired some of these civilian border w

know there's the other side of this from now on there is the case of the arizona minute now a woman shawna forde who was convicted of killing two people one of them a nine year old girl who pleaded with her not to shoot before she did i guess for thought she was going to find drugs in this home and instead shot the little girl and her father who are u.s. citizens so you have this on both sides that talk a little bit about the arguments going into these new bodies that are kind of formulating here. oh that's right i mean there's a definite political angle to this now politicians have instilled this sense of fear amongst their voters especially their conservative voters there in arizona this fear that there will be spillover violence from cartels that smugglers will be tearing through their lands now arizona is definitely a very common place for smugglers to be coming into the country but in many cases politicians and others people who have an interest in this issue do overplayed the problems of crime along the border federal statistics have time and time again shown that the border region i

. >> shawna. >> he's the suspect in the -- you know. >> yeah. >> that's two cases for him. >> yes. >>enough evidence to make a strong case against the suspects. but the find of the day was made by officer de la rosa. >> i don't have anything to say, really. >> hopefully the stuff we are going through, we might get lucky and find enough information about the assault, just more evidence to pile onto it. i am confident that those guys are going to do some extra time for that. they are going to spend a lot of time in the shu. we are always excited to get a weapon out of there. that's almost better than the rest of this. so it's a good morning. >> even though this case is almost closed, the isu's work is far from over. >> by the time you finish up one, you've already got two or three more stacked up in front of you. so finishing this one up and moving on. >> these people do a pretty darn good job in here every day, and they do a darn good job in a very difficult environment. much to the frustration of my wife, when i come in, i don't like to relive my day, and she wants to know what's goin

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joining us now is massachusetts state representative shawna o'connell who is trying to put a stop to'connell, how are you? >> good morning. great. thanks. >> my understanding is this fella, the defendant, the convicted drug dealer got on the phone and said to his friend, go get my electronic benefits transfer card, my e.b.t. card, my welfare card, and go get me money so i can post bail. is that true? >> that is true. and the police officer heard that and felt so strongly about it, he actual wrote it in his report so that we would know that happened. and the reason that can happen is because the state of massachusetts hands out $415 million a year in cash assistance to people that they can go to an a.t.m. and take out all of their cash assistance. so if you get $500 a month in cash assistance, you can go to the a.t.m. and take out $500 a month and we do not know how you're spending it. so virtually these have become a.t.m. cards and not e.b.t. cards. >> what can be done to stop that? where is the governor of massachusetts on this issue and what other forms of abuse can take place? i r

niece, bernie's niece shawna was number two in compliance.pliance for one second of one day filing a continuing stream of falsified reports to the government. >> for years, bernie madoff had been the guy on the ed sullivan show spinning the plates and finally when he was arrested, do you think he was a little relieved? >> i think he was. he saw his cash count dwindling to zero and he choose the circumstances in which he would turn himself in and he chose the time and date as well. he had plenty of time to destroy a lot of evidence. that's why less than a dozen of people have been arrested to date. >> nobody knows more about the evidence than you do. the whistle blower who tried to tell everybody, it is a riveting dvd, i understand. it is called "chasing madoff." harry, thank you very much for joining us live. >> thank you. appreciate it. >> very good. all right, coming up next, a car that will not only drive you to the gas station but find you the cheapest gas. we're live at the auto show. and that is so cool and then on this date in 1988, bi