my friend harry shearer told me he was at the school a couple of years ago. brian williams was talking. it was about katrina. harry asked a question about what the networks were not covering more -- what went wrong with the engineering of the levees in new orleans during the flooding? and brian said, it is the emotional stores that are the most compelling. to his credit, he then had harry around the next day to talk about that issue. but the notion that is the emotional stories that are the most compelling. in terms of network news, is that a fair way of looking at at framing it? >> to use the katrina example, the emotion that went into covering that, people at the superdome and the convention center, pleading, crying for help. that was the emotional story. that was the first week or two of the story. to look back into more investigating. at that point, the emotions of the story is what generated the huge outcry across america. if she did not see this people on television crying for help, the next step would not happen. i think that was an important starting