shelby emmitt, constitutional law expert. frank gaffney, founder and president of the center for security policy. shelby is a regular on my syndicated radio show. so is frank. at some point you have been called a sell out and at some point frank has been called a believe it or not. media and general public manipulate don't understand what these labels really mean and what the values are. what we wanted to do today, conversation is long overdue, frank, who would you deem a white supremacist? >> i think historically -- >> armstrong: today, that people can relate to. >> i don't know there are. >> armstrong: david duke? >> david duke would be one of them. trouble is, armstrong. there aren't as many. >> armstrong: tell me what they are. who are these people. what makes them a white supremacist in your mind? >> using their own whites are superior to others from other parts of the world and they are entitled to different treatment or to you know, a way of life that is superior. again, i think it is just important to put it into conte