[applause] [applause] tweet a set book tv shelby steele, the latest book coaching, where did that book title come from? there are many different themes i couldn't find that single thing finally we came upon with my wife so the word shame. >> does that central theme you're going for the ideas that america, arguably the greatest country in all of history also committed also committed the greatest sins they dehumanize the entire race of people, year in and year out for a very long time. so it's a profound evil amidst stunning greatness. and so now that greatness i think is what finally delivered us from what we're doing wrong. but on the other hand, it's a shame that we will now have to deal with. maybe were still too close to the 60s when we first acknowledged it. but i think it's one of the most important events how does society believes in freedom and grounded in freedom deal with having it? so the book tries to look at different aspects of that irony. >> in my reading of it but shane belongs to the 1960s liberal movement in your view so that's toward the other political polarization.

host: shelby steele has been our guest on book tv. "shame". doctor steele, one final question. i know you are here at freedom fest. is there a specific reason you're here? guest: yes, there is. i have a son, shelby eli steel, a young doctor-- documentary filmmaker and he has a film out he is showing here called "i am: how jack became black" and it's a look at identity politics. jack is his son and he tells the story of taking him to school the first day and say he had to identify his primary race or he couldn't go to school here in the united states of america well, that's how it-- it explores all of that controversy. i think shows the essential corruption of identity politics. white hurts people it was to help. host: thank you for your time. >> i am here to see that and cheer him on. >> here's a look at upcoming book fairs and festivals happy around the country. next weekend we will be live for two full days of author talks at the southern festival of books in nashville. later in october, there are two book festivals happening on the same weekend. in the northeast it's the nint

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