joining now is shelby steele.his seems to be all -- you and i have been discussing these issues now for decades. now we are adding new plays with censorship, corporate censorship, now he incoming president with such a dark vision of the american justice system. >> yes. , well, the power of the left is based in the history of america's racism and the shameful treatment of blacks and the left today has absolutely no other source of power than that moral disgrace that plagued america for so long. they arelg milking it down to te last drop. it is an insidious power because it's moral. when you may cancel the publication, or try to do a documentary, when -- cancellation is a moral act in which i show myself to be on the side of the good. aligned with all with what god wants in the world. it is the power that explains why joseph biden is the president of the united states and donald trump is not. donald trump has no moral appeal remotely on that level. in fact, he goes the other way as i think most conservatives rightly

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at victor davis hanson dinesh d'souza, and shelby steele are all here, plus raymond arroyo is here with all the seen and unseen moments from the day. as biden is pledging unity on one side of the country as i referenced with sean, antifa lunatics are destroying cities on the other side. we have a live report on the ground in not so peaceful and unified portland. but first, liberty over unity that's the focus of tonight's angle. today you might have heard is a day of firsts, first woman of color as vice president, first socially distanced inauguration first time a sitting president left washington before a new president was sworn in. >> i think we should take this moment just to realize how historic this is. >> such a historic day especially for a historic do well. >> true historic first day in the white house. >> the first female vice president, the first black south asian dissent -- this is a very big deal as we are watching her walk down pennsylvania avenue. >> laura: there was another important first that was largely overlooked by politicos in the media. china's top news agency celeb

it's called intellectuals and race and shelby steele that should be mandatory reading for everyone to realize you are destroying everything of the civil rights era and how the west was one and people should know why the west is the best and to have gotten rid of western civilization and they say hey how it has got to go. and why the west one with intellectuals and race and shelby steele talk about western civilization christopher, stayed put in the context of slavery. but they failed to offer and also the idea of spreading the good news. and how they spend their lives dedicated to preaching. and then to have an interesting spiritual walk yourself talk about the book and one of the insurer them to read was the bible and then to read bible scriptures every single morning at breakfast and then he would ask questions. we love that growing up so eating preface you should read the bible so that i came back to those values and in the narcissistic individual and then to say it's all about me. and then they understand that and they think it is a package deal. and then there asking for new rule

, black writers like shelby steele or glen lowery and others he'll find a point of view that is from black people that is very different from his own point of view, but you see from -- you hear from the caller his -- he is quite impassion nat and intransient on the subject just as the palestinians or the israelis were i talked to all those years ago and realized they were essentially irreconcilable at that time anyway. so, this is a binary country that we're talking about. i i only urge the caller to consider the possibility that there is another point of view and that there is a different way of looking at these things, and i think there is. i think -- but he obviously is utterly contemptuous of the other point of view and i understand why. i understand why he says that, and i understand the anger over the floyd death and breonna taylor and all that. anyway, this is where we are. this is where we are. >> host: one other topic you referenced john brown, historical figure in your book if you write this in connection with that saying a corollary of the john brown rationale would r

that they used about these great black authors, thomas sole, kind of the dean of that delegation, shelby steele, so many. the criticism is written that these are black thinkers, but don't know how a brain thinks in terms of race but black thinkers the right for a white population. what you are saying is for you those black writers helped ring to a whole different perspective on whole range of issues. >> guest: they are, they are possibly the most courageous and heroic black people that are walking in this country because they did it at a time it wasn't okay. they took this news, the heartache and they kept on telling the truth and it did so unapologetically. like i said i want to be where i am that i wouldn't be today rented if it hadn't been for them. i hope one day people will see it and the truth will become popular. it's sad to me the black american is in such a dark spot, that we're idolizing lebron james and cardi b and turning our backs and condeleezza rice and thomas sole and shelby steele. that is the state of culture today and that's something i'm actively working to transform. >> hos

i would point out to the caller if he studies the work of writers like shelby steele or glenn lowry orthers that he will find a interview that is very different from his own point of view but you can hear from the caller it is quite compassionate and intransigent from all those years ago it is irreconcilable at that time. and then consider the possibility that there is another point of view and i think there is it is utterly contemptuous and i understand why. and i understand the anger from rihanna taylor and all of that this is where we are so a corollary of that john brown rationale that they had to pay for admission for the idea to suggest where those cruelties and injustices and the second-class citizenship all represented to assist unnecessary readjustment of defiance slavery was the initiation amounted to the involuntary education african blacks did not asked to be enrolled in the program can you expand on that? >> i would point out i was not stating my point of view in that paragraph. i was saying that was a point of view and in those pages i was talking about the various ration

. >> as you and shelby steele wer saying, this is dehumanizing. these are the people to talk about justice in decency, civility, this is not the road to unity. this is condescending elitism. how can you cover people or their concerns when you despise them. this is how they celebrated new year's eve and casey you missed it. >> does it hurt? to get it does hurt. it does hurt. it does sting a little bit for it. >> we checked back in with john lynam at don's house. cnn after derek is a scary place . all that was missing was chris cuomo streaked by the window. it's amazing the disconnect. they need to get out of the hamptons and with real america. >> we all can't be from the vanderbilt family. we all can't go to the hamptons every time we blink. but imagine if republican said that about some poor guy in chicago who lived on the south side, they would never see the light of day again. biden have another presser toda and it was a perplexing affair. >> we've done our job, we've begun my job of naming these people, restaurants, bars, lost more than 372,000

he studies the work of writers like shelby steele, and others he will find a point of view that is differents own point of view but you hear from the caller he is quite passionate and intransigent on the subject just as the palestinians or the israel ease i talked to all those years ago, essentially irreconcilable. the binary country, i would urge the caller to consider the possibility that there is another point of view, a different way of looking at these things. i think there is but he obviously is utterly contemptuous of the other point of view and i understand why he's says that and i understand the anchor over the floyd death, breonna taylor and all that. at any rate this is where we are. >> host: one of the topics, that of sean brown, the corollary, would ripen later on, slavery, had to pay for admission to white civilization, the idea suggests whatever the cruelty and injustices, the jim crow discrimination, that represented a necessary readjustment and correction of misalignment, slavery was an initiation for white culture, slavery amounts to an involuntary -- african black did not

compare that to someone like shelby steele, a current fellow at stanford's hoover institution who said this on our show last week. >> is white guilt still an animating force in american life? it won't -- we won't ever get beyond it. until white america begins to see to lose its insecurity around race. yes, we did horrible things but today america is remarkably free of racism. if you're a black person in america today, your life is not going to be stunted by racial persecution. >> laura: now, if what rice and the rest of the biden team are claiming is true, then why should we ask anyone here to sacrifice for this country, for instance in the military, as a member of a police force, frankly any public servant. why did susan rice as national security advisor sign onto sending our troops abroad to die for this country. why would a rotten, racist, evil contribute worth defending? why would we want our systemically racist values to be exported abroad? let's face it. the democrats know all too well that trump grew his political support among all minorities especially latinos and asians. why d

complicated of quantum physics, all that means white people and black people in a pack and this gets to shelby steelere white people are asked to pretend that two plus two doesn't equal four and if they do that black people would absolve them of not being racist. it doesn't make any black person and it doesn't get us one millimeter in any significant way. >> yeah, i think candy in particular is explicit about where he's coming from here and defining racism and inequality, it's disparity. where he sees racial disparities, he sees racism plain and simple. it doesn't -- nothing else can be responsible for racial disparities and i think that a little redactive. you mentioned power several times and power structure to my guest, that's what gets critical race theory labeled as neo marxist or marxist and origins mark, of course, dealing with power structures, management and so forth, and -- and the crt folks dealing with racial structures. what i find interesting about the debate, though, black americans today particularly politically seen quite a bit of power, john, at least in comparison to a previous ge

located in quantum physics, all of that means white people and black people in apac, this gets into shelby steele to pretend that 2+2 doesn't equal four and if they do that then black people will dissolve them as being not racist. that little dance, as shelby put it for so long, doesn't make any black person less poor and doesn't get us one millimeter past race in any significant way. >> i think kennedy in particular is very explicit about where he's coming from here in defining racism. it's inequality, it's disparities, where he sees racial disparities he sees racism. plain and simple. nothing else can be responsible for racial disparities. i think that is a little reductive. you mentioned power several times. and power structures, my guess is that's what gets critical race theory labeled as neo-marxist or marxist. and the mark stealing and power structures between labor and capital and the management and so forth. the crt folks dealing with racial power structures. what i find interesting about that debate is black americans today, particularly politically, seem to have quite a bit of power. at

all that means is white people and black people in a packed and this gift to shelby steele. her white people are asked to pretend that two plus two does not equal four. and if they do that than black people will absolve them as being not racist. but that little dances shelby's put up for so long does not make any black person any does not get us 1 millimeter past race in any significant way. so back i kenzie in particular is very explicit about where he is coming from here. and defining racism. and its inequality its disparity. they see racial disparities, he sees racism. plain and simple. nothing else can be responsible for racial disparities. think that's a little reductive. you mention power several times and power structures. my guess is that's what gets critical race, the theory labeled as neo- marxist or marxist. and in its origins, marx dealing with power structure between label and power structure with the management and so forth. on the crt dealing with racial power struggles. what i find interesting about that debate though is black americans today, particularly po