i mean, we have, for instance sheldon addalson who is the casino executive out of las vegas who we thinkwe can say this confidently the biggest individual donor in the history of american politics. he's making phone calls to the hill. we don't know what kind of money he has into this fight. he's making phone calls. when you know the money he spent, that has great influence, there's other donors who we don't again... we don't know exactly who they are but it seems to be that there are some of these new groups that are out of left field >> woodruff: jim, what about on the pro hagel side? what groups are there and how much are they spend something >> they are spending as has been the case in the last couple of cycles far less. i think we're looking... this is a really ballpark estimate. but maybe 100,000 or maybe a little bit more on some newspaper ads by a group of former national security officials of both parties. kind of the foreign policy realists of the reagan, bush and clinton campaigns who liked hagel a republican himself and they've done a couple newspaper ads and some web activity

i mean, we have, for instance, sheldon addalson who is the casino executive out of las vegas who we thinkwe can say this confidently the biggest individual donor in the history of american politics. he's making phone calls to the hill. we don't know what kind of money he has into this fight. he's making phone calls. when you know the money he spent, that has great influence, there's other donors who we don't again... we don't know exactly who they are but it seems to be that there are some of these new groups that are out of left field >> woodruff: jim, what about on the pro hagel side? what groups are there and how much are they spend something >> they are spending as has been the case in the last couple of cycles far less. i think we're looking... this is a really ballpark estimate. but maybe 100,000 or maybe a little bit more on some newspaper ads by a group of former national security officials of both parties. kind of the foreign policy realists of the reagan, bush and clinton campaigns who liked hagel, a republican himself, and they've done a couple newspaper ads and some web activi