sheldon adelson and spends a lot the koch brothers have 60 million michael bloomberg gives to democratsmental activist has 73 million more than kochs. compared to the unions almost $2 billion you dwarf the kochs. warda you complaining about? >> billionaire verses billionaire does not help the doesn't matter what side but george soros would gladly get out of politics to support campaign finance reform. john: because the government is in charge. >> because they believe money corrupts the political process. john: look at the spending most assume republicans are richer but look at the numbers from the last election democratic party and the about campaign spent slightly more than the republican. >> that is the first time in my lifetime i think we don't like it when democrats play the same game. >> with the koch brothers i have spent time with both david and charles and they have paid me to speak at a few of their even said they gave the money to charities. issing fehr doing something terrible david is a more visible brother and once ran for office and is in the society pages. charles stays i

live in a country where people fought and died for democracy, and you get the koch brothers in sheldon adelson and a handful of billionaires able to spend hundreds of millions of dollars to elect candidates the wealthy and the powerful. and this recent bill -- everyone familiar with this terrible bill passed last thursday in the house. the media describes it as a health care bill. that health care bill. get $300ll designed to billion in tax breaks to the top two for -- 2%, and hundreds of billions more to insurance companies. so that's what you've got, the rich get richer, they protect themselves politically, the more tax breaks through the middle class shrinks, some people in this country live in desperate poverty, and then in the midst of all of that frustration and anger in pain, you've got theyody who comes along -- say, the problems that muslim over there, the latino. lot to doat has a come in this country, and internationally, with a lot of what we're seeing today. mr. carter: i am happy to see senator senator agrees with me. -- senator sanders agrees with me. i feel much more comfortabl

live in a country where people fought and died for democracy, and you get the koch brothers in sheldon adelson and a handful of billionaires able to spend hundreds of millions of dollars to elect candidates who represent the wealthy and the powerful. and this recent bill, everybody is familiar with this terrible bill passed last thursday in the house. the media describes it as a health care bill. it is not a health care bill. it is a bill designed to give $300 million in tax breaks to the top 2%, and hundreds of billions more to the insurance and drug companies. the rich get richer. they protect themselves politically. they get more tax breaks. the middle class shrinks. some people in this country live in disparate poverty. midst of all that anger and pain and poverty, somebody says, you know the problem is that muslim person over there, the latino over there. i think that has a lot to do with what is happening in this country, and internationally, with what we are seeing today. president carter: i am relieved to know that the senator agrees with me. i feel much more assured about what i have

you could say the koch brothers perhaps, sheldon adelson, people like this do add up.ou could say all of these lobbies at up. aipac adds up. i was wrong. when i look at that clip, i was thinking, i don't think yes i kind of influence. i think it was putting him on, encouraging him to take a position. that is what it interviewer does sometimes. i don't think you could make a difference if he said he hated trump. amy: but you get into the issue of the election, the hacking of the election. all of the different forces that you just described affect elections, but you drill down on this issue of did putin, the russian government, hack. >> as i said, he denies it completely. without -- he thinks it is a silly thing, an internal american struggle. he has a point. extensively,nto after that and went into cyber warfare because cyber warfare is a new form of it. we talked about this when i was here for snowden. snowden reveals cyber war for us -- warfare for us. one thing expressed strongly, the russians have proposed a cyber treated to the u.s. it is been on the desk for about

much more powerful the republican parties, sheldon adelson and a bunch of other really individual really rich people, the koch brothers come all these people. we have the same thing on the left. tom steyer and george soros and of the people, and specific interest groups, issue groups. i do think those are the driving forces in american politics today. those other things that make candidates win or lose, along with their personality and also different factors. party labels kind of an afterthought right now. >> peter, your historical perspective? >> i will jump it is unlikely to try to jump into current day politics. i make a story of early america. what i will just put this into context of frankly the revolution which i teach a course about. if you posed the question our political parties, to an end? the edge is yes, i think the founders would be delighted. they were terrified of political parties. .. going to the left. what we found -- this is what trump exposed -- very little classic supply side chamber of commerce republicanism. missed what was going on which is a lot of people who vot

you know, much more powerful in the republican party than the republican party is sheldon adelson and a bunch of really rich people, the koch brothers, all these people. we have the same thing on the heft, you know? tom stier and george soros and other people and specific interest groups. is and so i do think those are the driving forces in american politics today. you know, those are the things that make candidates win or lose along with, you know, their personality and all these other factors. and i think party label's kind of an after-thought right now. >> peter, a historical perspective on this? >> bob, i'm going to jump in and say i'm not going to try to jump into current-day politics. i'm a historian of early america. but what i'm going to do is put this into the context of, frankly, the revolution which i teach a course about. i think if you pose the question are political parties coming to an end and the answer is yes, i think the founders would be delighted. they were terrified about political parties. the whole debate about whether we can live in a federal republic is the fe

sheldon adelson, who is a republican donor, casino magnet, he will get, if the senate bill passes, he will get $44 million tax cut in 2017 alone. how are they paying for that? cutting medicaid, taking away protections for pre-existing conditions, for seniors, for average americans. mr. speaker, that's just not right. it's not right if you're a democrat. it's not if you're a republican. it's not right if you're an independent. it's just not right, and, yes, the president is correct on this point. it's a mean bill. it's mean, it's cruel and it's unjust and i hope we defeat it and i thank the gentleman for ielding and yield back. mr. raskin: thank you, jsjy pal. -- ms. jayapal. we have next with russ ro khanna. he was deputy assistant secretary of the commerce department under president obama, he's a well-known author who has written a very good back about manufacturing and competitiveness in the united states and we welcome congressman kanna who will be taking other for congresswoman jayapal as my co-convenor of this progress i caucus hour from here on in. congressman? mr. caw in a: tha