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sheldon whitehouse, thanks for being with me. ted lieu of california is a member of the house judiciary and foreign affairs committees. i want to ask about your reaction to the chief of staff john kelly's comments about daca recipients today. in one way he was couching it. some people were saying they were scared and others didn't get off their asses. how did you take that. >> his comments were half right. some people may be scared and if you're scared and you're eligible for daca, you should sign up immediately. it will protect you for the time being. his comments about immigrants being lazy are wrong and offensive. just factually has no bearing to reality. if you look at the facts, immigrants as a whole commit less crimes than native born americans. they're less in poverty than native born americans and over 40% of fortune 500 companies were started by immigrants and their children. those are the facts. >> do you -- the fear thing, the reason that there was fear and you just encouraged folks to sign up was that the daca registration would then be changing administrations and used essentially as a deportation list. how can you tell people as they watch what's happening in washington,