. >> now, the senate judiciary committee, you saw sheldon whitehouse talking to rachel. he's a member of that committee. they tried to get clark to sit down for a voluntary interview with him over the summer, but he did not respond. according to politico, he has yet to field questions from congressional investigators, scrutinizing trump's final weeks in office. his lawyer declined to comment on the subpoena. betsy woodruff swan reported for politico, broke the news of jeffrey rosen's testimony today, and she joins me now. it was not necessarily unanticipated but still a big deal, and this is a very big central figure in this entire thing, and i think someone who's going to not be cavalier about violating subpoenas if i had to guess? >> the january 6th story is very much in terms of this particular episode a tale of two jeffs. we know a ton about jeff rosen's perspective, he's actually been unusually forthcoming regarding just about everything he knows from his time running the justice department through a historically chaotic moment. i know based on conversations with fo

without a doubt the biggest threat to our democracy in my lifetime. >>> joining me is senator sheldon whitehouse of rhode island. he's a member of the senate judiciary committee which wrote this report on former president trump's efforts to overturn the election using the justice department as cover to do it. senator whitehouse, welcome back to "meet the press." >> thanks. good to be on with you. >> i want to start with -- i know you were limited in your investigation because you're the judiciary committee and this was about the actions of the department of justice. so how complete of a picture do you think you have of what president trump did, and what more would you like to know? >> we have a very complete picture of the extent to which trump was personally involved in this. this is a question in which you can actually connect the president of the united states to the scheme. the second thing that we know is it focused very heavily on georgia. so that relates and feathers into the georgia prosecution that's under way -- i should say the investigation that's under way down in fulton county. tho

joining us is rhode island senator sheldon whitehouse. he sat in on some of the testimony. he is also a former prosecutor. he was u.s. attorney in rhode island. he was the state's attorney general. qualified to comment on these matters. it's a pleasure to see you tonight. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me on. >> this is a lot of material. it's about a 50-page staff report. it's several hundred pages of transcripts. several hundred pages of exhibits. what do you think the public should understand is the most important thing you and your colleagues have found? >> i think three really key takeaways from this. the first is a simple one. that's how deeply personally involved president trump was in all of this. meetings and phone calls and contacts, oval office. he was neck deep in this personally. that would be point one. point two would be how much of this scheme focused on georgia. the letter was about georgia. the schemes to maneuver u.s. attorney pack out of georgia were obviously about georgia. it supplements whatever investigative materials the fulton county d

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senator sheldon whitehouse mofz how important he is. >> he's the central person in this saga and at some a grand jury, some place, his testimony is going to be obtained. >> congresswoman, a democrat of virginia is a member of the select committee. she joins me now. first, i want to ask if you're in a position to confirm will clark will be testifying a week from today? >> as you know, we issued a subpoena for mr. clark's testimony but as far as when and if particular witnesses testify, not going to comment on that. as senator whitehouse said, as the subpoena indicates he's definitely a person of interest who we think have information that's important for this investigation. >> there's a question now about the what happens next on the bannon situation which is the vote came out. there's a referral to the department of justice. what is your expectation about the timeline here in. >> we didn't waste any time after the timeline ran out on the subpoena, within a week we voted. the vote happened yesterday and the speaker confirmed that. that was taken over to the department of justice within ho

. >> sheldon whitehouse, perhaps hoping to earn the gratitude of a grateful nation, mitch mcconnell,statesman, said he will not block a debt extension until december. it's tentative. new poll shows president biden's approval rating continues to drop as his agenda remains stalled. he's hit all-time new low, 38% of those questioned saying they approve of the job he's doing. we'll talk about this and other matters with two friends of the broadcast. eugene robinson, pulitzer prize winning columnist for "washington post" and tim miller, contributor to the bullwork. 13 days in may, bobby kennedy said you went eye-to-eye with the soviets and they blinked. schumer/mcconnell less than that, is this a victory to the democrats and a thank you to mitch mcconnell? >> somewhat less fraught but fraught, global economic collapse if the u.s. defaulted on his debt and yes, mitch mcconnell blinked, no question about it. chalk it up as a victory for the democrats. they get, yes, only a few weeks, maybe a couple of months of extension of the debt ceiling but politics will be exactly the same when this co

number two, i need your reaction to this exchange -- this was sheldon whitehouse with the attorney general today. >> please tell me it has not been constrained only to people in the capitol. >> it's been by the prosecutors and the fbi field office. >> great, and the old doctrine of follow the money -- >> it's fair to say. >> it's alive and well. >> it's fair to say that all investigative techniques of which you're particular, and some that maybe you're not familiar with because they post-date your time are all being pursued in this manner. >> counselor, what is your takeaway from that exchange there? >> i think it's that two people doing their job, the way it's supposed to be done. the senator asking the hard question, and the attorney general being careful and lawyerly, and not essentially answering the question. that's actually, i think, brian, something we should be celebrating. we've lived through joker attorneys general in the last administration who broke every norm and rule of the justice department. but the norm is really what garland is doing here. if there's a criminal investigat

number two i need your reaction to this exchange from, sheldon whitehouse democrat of rhode island with the attorney general today we'll talk about this exchange on the other side. >> please tell me it does not been constrained only to people the capital. >> investigation is being conducted by the prosecutors in the u.s. attorneys officer, and the fbi field office. we have not constrained them in anyway. >> great. and the old doctrine of follow the money, which is a well-established to principle of prosecution. 11? well >> it's fair to say that all investigative of which you're familiar and some may be that you're not familiar with because they posted your time are all being pursued in this matter. >> so counselor what do you make? what is your take away from that exchange? there >> i think it's that two people are doing their job the way that it's supposed to be done, but senator asking the way that it's supposed to be done can the attorney general is not essentially answering the question. and that is actually i think something, brian, we should actually be celebrating. we lived throu

just a couple of nights ago we had rhode island senator sheldon whitehouse here as a guest. he's on the judiciary chit kmit tee in the senate that turned up evidence of what jeff clark and trump had done, the committee that referred jeff clark to the bar association for potential disciplinary action as a lawyer once they found what he had done. the senator made an interesting point that stuck with me. in my interview with him he pointed out to us that since jeff clark left the trump administration, he left the justice department, his new job was a place the senator called a dark money shop, a place he called the new civil liberties alliance. what this group is is a right wing advocacy group that does things like bring lawsuits against vaccine requirements and lawsuits against gun safety laws and stuff. a right wing organization that does have opaque funding. and that brings lawsuits that serve right wing causes. in july of this year that group, in fact, put out a big, bold press release bragging and kind of chest pounding terms that they had snagged this guy jeff clark. ncla

just a couple of nights ago, we had rhode island senator sheldon whitehouse here, as a guest. he's on that judiciary committee in the senate, that's the committee that turned up evidence of watch of clark and trump had done, that's the committee that -- as a lawyer based on what they found that he had done. and senator whitehouse made a really interesting, point that stuck with me. in my interview with him, a couple nights ago, he pointed out to us, that since jeff clark left the trump administration, since he left the justice department, he had landed his new job was a place that the senator called a dark money shop. i place called a new several liberties alliance. what this group is, is that right wing advocacy group that does things like bring lawsuits against vaccine requirements, bring lawsuits against that gun safety's, it's a right-wing organization that does have opaque funding. and that brings lawsuits, that's a sort of right-wing causes. in july of this year, that group in fact put out a big bold price relief, bragging and chest pounding terms, that they had snag thi

host: taking a look at another moment from yesterday's hearing, the questioning from sheldon whitehouse on the investigation being conducted by the fbi. [video clip] >> i've been pursuing this since early days, starting with a letter on january 8 and the resources being deployed into the investigation and whether a task force, prosecution task force was being set up and so forth and another letter from the 24th with regards to domestic extremist violence groups, their potential role. we have learned a little bit more now, learned that there was a lot of money sloshing around in the background behind the january 6 rally and behind the raid, the riot in the capital. for instance, we know that the bradley foundation, a big funder , gave money to turning point usa and to public interest legal foundation. it gets even more interesting, turning point usa has a twin called turning point action. a 501(c)(3) 501(c) four combo that got money from the judicial crisis network to support the so-called italy gate, the debunked italy gate theory. at the same time, the public interest legal foundation

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>> sheldon whitehouse a real character.t know what game you are playing let alone what the score is. for mitch mcconnell and senate republicans this is an opportunity to do this over and over and over again, right? the only thing better than highlighting the incompetence of that your democratic counterparts is putting it on a reoccurring schedule which is what they've done here. they kicked what appears to be into december if they come up with the agreement today. so we'll do it all over again. my sense is that republicans would be happy to highlight the continued spending, taxing, prolific spending and taxing of the biden administration from now until election day if they could. >> dana: interesting. it leads into what bill will talk about, the polls. that very issue of spending is one of the reasons that independents have a 62% disapproval. >> that's right. look, democrats have taken a real bath on almost every issue. leading the way post afghanistan is their plans for the 3 1/2 trillion tax and spend bill. it is deeply u

host: taking a look at another moment from yesterday's hearing, the questioning from sheldon whitehouse on the investigation being conducted by the fbi. [video clip] >> i've been pursuing this since early days, starting with a letter on january 8 and the resources being deployed into the investigation and whether a task force, prosecution task force was being set up and so forth and another letter from the 24th with regards to domestic extremist violence groups, their potential role. we have learned a little bit more now, learned that there was a lot of money sloshing around in the background behind the january 6 rally and behind the raid, the riot in the capital. for instance, we know that the bradley foundation, a big funder , gave money to turning point usa and to public interest legal foundation. it gets even more interesting, turning point usa has a twin called turning point action. a 501(c)(3) 501(c) four combo that got money from the judicial crisis network to support the so-called italy gate, the debunked italy gate theory. at the same time, the public interest legal foundation