although now the two senators i'm looking at are lisa murkowski of alaska and shelley moore capito of west virginia. we know susan collins going to be a no. but these two other female senators, considered moderates, have said that they would only vote with a motion to proceed if they know they're going to have something to replace the repeal with. now, i don't know what's going on behind the scenes on capitol hill. i would guess mitch mcconnell is working hard to try to assure them that he has some type of replacement eventually up his sleeve for them to get to yes. it's just unclear. heller is very important but those two, i think, are what this procedural vote could come down to and if it passes, how they vote. >> how do they know what the replacement -- we've had weeks of discussion on capitol hill. jonathan, how do we know -- how do they know what the plan would be? because it's so far, the math just hasn't added up and i'm sure people watching at home are thinking, why are they voting on something that thus far has been a no-go. >> they think they'll figure it out. it is remarkable how this ha

if i was a shelley of west virginia or portman of ohio, someone who has real political skin in this game, i would be concerned that it feels like each step of the way, it's well, we're going to kick the can over here. the next step is the step where we really address it. if they had a good idea that would get to 50 on how to do, they don't thpt sausage-making to be public. i think the tendency to say, just vote on this, but it's the next. that's not what we care about is a little bit dangerous political myly. >> if you're the house republicans watching this senate process unfold, watching senate republicans fail to reach any sort of consensus on anything, what gives you the confidence that going to conference is going to make this process any better or easier or more productive? i mean, if i'm a house republican looking at this, it seems like a total waste of time potentially to even go to conference. >> that's right. and again, just as a reminder, if they had one plan that they could get a majority for in the house and the senate, they would do it. they're not masochists. look how much

we do not know what shelley of west virginia heard. know what other members heard when they went home. we know, there were protests, but that might not be the issue. whether people who voted for them, whether they would do so again it does fail. that is the question. will not know that for a while. this ever to bring it to a vote will tell us a lot. >> shannon: and on the issue on tax reform, newt gingrich who had a lot of things done on the fill, they demand key is urging them to scale down golden expectations. >> the first big change is to really emphasize by thanksgiving, having a tax cut bill, signed into law, which means it has to be fairly simple. fairly straightforward. drop tax reform as a goal. go to tax-cut as a goal. >> shannon: what you make of that, brit. >> he is a man with a lot of ideas. a lot of them are not the same ideas he had the week earlier. he is one of the most interesting men in town and always had been. i think his advice is taken with a grain of salt. he does not know where the votes are. for once? lets you

lisa murkowski of alaska, shelley moore capito of west virginia, and susan collins of maine, all said it is too risky to repeal without an immediate plan for what next. >> i do not think it is going to be constructive to repeal a law that, at this point, is so interwoven in our health care system, and then hope that over the next two years, we will come up with some kind of a replacement. >> reporter: at the same time, democrats are flexing their muscles against repeal. minority leader chuck schumer: >> passing repeal now is not a door to bipartisan solutions, as the majority leader suggested this morning. rather, it is a disaster. the door to biparitsanship is open right now. not with repeal, but with an effort to improve the existing system. >> reporter: even though it seems certain to fail, republican leaders said they're going to press forward and hold a vote sometime soon. >> well, i think we'll have to see what happens. we will have demonstrated that republicans by themselves are not prepared at this point to do a replacement. >> we're not going own it. i'm not going to own it.

pitch to repeal obamacare without a replacement, three senators, susan collins of maine, shelley moore capital of west virginia, and lisa murkowski of alaska said they would not support a vote to bring the new version of the bill to the floor essentially killing the measure. mcconnell said he will plow ahead with the vote, even if it fails. >> pretty clear that there are not 50 republicans at the moment to vote for a replacement for obamacare. consequently, sometime in the near future we'll have a vote on repealing obamacare. >> reporter: wisconsin's ron johnson is angry over reports that mcconnell was telling moderate senators not to worry about long-term medicaid cuts. mcconnell said his remarks were misinterpreted. but when asked if he still has faith in mcconnell as a leader, johnson said, quote, i found those comments very troubling. when a reporter followed up, asking, so, you're not going to say yes to that, he repeated, i was trubloubled with those comments. despite the crack on mcconnell's grip of the caucus, most republicans remain behind him. >> you still have faith about leader mcconnell? >> this i

of maine. she has been actually against it, hundred% a "no." shelley moore west virginia, lisa capitol, and west virginia, lisa makowski. they said they will vote against it, even starting a debate, but only repeal the aca. why would they put a roadblock and not allow this to go to debate? if they want to get democrats to come and meet in the middle somewhere on this, and it means that much to republicans to get some kind of replacement. they need to bring it to a debate. do they not? >> i think the argument is, we need to go to debate, but every house member has contingency. our states are different, districts are different, and decent senators are trying to do what they think is best in their home state. what i think is best for america is, we move forward on the debate for repeal and replace obamacare. you have good senators, who are freaked out about changing the current health care package of obamacare, but julie, we have to recognize that obamacare is failing the american people. we have this debate about what the republican party is doing, we have to look at democr

of americans were not at stake. compare that to shelley moore capito of west virginia, about her decision not to save -- support a repealnd delay bill. "i did not come to washington to hurt people." richard has been hanging on from louisville, kentucky. good morning. caller: i am a union man, and through years, would come up with a new contract. and our leadership would always promise we were going to get its this time. we would get good pay, more for our health and welfare, and we would be at the union meetings and fired up, and when it came time for nut cracking they would look at us and say well, all they're going to do is only give us this little bit. and we do not want to go on strike because that defeats everything. so they would force this stuff down our throat. mitch mcconnell and paul ryan are weak. they need to step down, put somebody in there with some backbone. you have guys like hugh hewitt on the radio could not even spell conservative. there are now calling rand paul and those who stood up like mike lee to say these are elected their bubble can score. this is not donald trump's fault, it is mitch mcconnel

number one among them is shelley moore capito of west virginia.rginia is donald trump's best state. he has over a 60% approval rating. what he's doing tonight is more microthan macro in my opinion. he's telling people in states where he's popular you need to vote yes on the motion to proceed and i'm popular in your home state. >> his strategy on health care has changed several times. it went from repeal and replace to, let obamacare fail to an amendment free-for-all on the senate floor. i mean, the republicans really, do they even know what bill they're voting for? >> well, what they're going to do tomorrow, they have to get over this procedural hurdle. the nat is supposed to be the most important deliberative body in the world. they can't actually deliberate and get to this voter ram ma on the bill till they get over the motion to proceed. that's number one. number two, if they get over that hurdle, i think they'll be voting on everything, a clean repeal, they'll be voting on the bicra, anybody else who has an idea. it's unlimited amendments and

of that. he goes senator by senator on what they are looking for from the bill. rob portman and shelley moore areto of west virginia requesting more money to response to the opioid crisis. as we look at this horse trading you're talking about, looking at what each senator might want or request. pennsylvania, insured through medicaid, good morning. >> yes. good morning. ifwould help a great deal they stop ripping off insurance companies so bad as well. my mother law is 100 years old, and my first month, i paid $10,000. after that, it was over $6,000 a month. every friday, they would charge $109. every week with $89 for occupational therapy. works, butw how it it was charged. she needed about two weeks. chargede bills, she was for two months of oxygen. i brought her home, and about six months ago, they brought her oxygen and she was perfect. this is ridiculous what they're charging. inc. you. host: thank you for sharing your story. the cost of nursing home care? >> on target, very spencer, north of $100,000 a year, and if the medicare deduction to the cuts that are into the house and senate bills went into place, the

we mentioned that the president will visit with shelley moore cap a toe of west virginia. e of west virginia. he called the bill a monstrosity. clearly, he still case the replacement but would vote for a motion to proceed on debating the bill. other people to watch our mike lee who is close with the house freedom caucus. they are working whether they should support something like this. mike lee was one of the people who put the nail on the -- in the coffin for the replacement bill. a lot is happened in one week. he was against the replacement. he said he wanted to push the bill further to the right. it sounds like he could , fortially vote for this repeal only. we are watching him and other people to watch, susan collins. i don't think she will vote yes on this because she voted against repeal only back in the day a couple of years ago. people arefferent involved. rob portman is another one. if they can i get him, they cannot get anything done. he still has a moderate expansion. came jerry moran of kansas out with bank lead to effectively kill that bill for a couple of day

of tennessee. shelley moore capito of west virginia. dean heller of nevada.ohn mccain, senator lisa mur cow is i and rob portman of ohio. they didn't want a clean repeal. we will find out if they want a clean repeal and replace when they put together the so-called skinny version or opportunity for it to go forward and essentially it's this. put together a version that's going to be simple and then get it to conference where the house and senate will work out a plan. ainsley: heard of the skinny girl marguerite attachment it's skinny girl obamacare. appeal tax on medical devices and it would not cut medicaid. steve: right. the problem is insurers say if you don't mandate young people buy it you will go into that death spiral. none the less,. brian: which we're in right now. steve: we are in it right now there was that bipartisan group. five republican governors and five democrat governors the skinny version we don't like that either. anthony scaramucci was on the program yesterday. we asked him about the fact that jeff sessions, it sounds like is going to be o

of them are not comfortable with that. even the health chairman was voting no. shelley in west virginiaor the final bill, she voted no. ohio voted no. we expected this to go down, it is in the process of going down. the real question is, what will be in the final package that mitch mcconnell called together, probably friday morning? off,et: sorry to cut you we have breaking news. a has stepped down from the hp board. -- megf questions whitman has stepped down from the hb -- hp board. there isait to see if any kind of follow-up announcement from this big personal change. facebook results also out. line, $9 the revenue .23 billion. daily active users, the one billion mark, it has actually $1.23n at $1.22 -- billion. monthly active users just over 2 that one, beat on too. joseph, to david nodding, the smile there. scarlet: i need to get to the meg whitman announcement. what does this mean to you, how would you read this? >> there is increasing talk that she is a candidate for the uber thing. and hpe.as ceo of hp she is stepping down from one and not the other, as far as i understand it. ,

the president of the united states will, 3:00 this afternoon, before going to west virginia, republican senator shelley moore capito is one of the issues. a no vote right now. will the president today move this forward? with either what he says at the white house or perhaps even more importantly, that's in washington. get going, we need to do this. we've promised this. or what we haven't seen. what a lot of republicans say, why haven't we seen more of this, mr. president? get out on the ground where it really matters and try to change a vote? >> the indication from the white house, he plans to appear this afternoon with what they like to call obamacare victims. he's going to explicitly ask the senate to move forward on a motion to proceed. ask them then to repeal and replace it and tell them, with certain becoming a mantra in this white house, inaction is not an option. that starts to look more like a typical president, a typical administration trying to move forward an agenda that would be on point to what republican senators, senator leadership wants to do. it may be a little bit, agents t -- a littl

west virginia prevailed. donald trump won by 42 points. the reason bernie sanders is here today is because of shelley moore capito, his colleague in the senatebably the most popular politician in west virginia, and she is on the fence about health care right now. she wants to repeal obamacare. she voted 40 times to do so when she was in the house. now as a asenator, she's got problems with proposed cuts to medicaid and cuts to programs to help people with opoid abuse, which is a big problem here in west virginia and elsewhere. we caught up with the senator to talk to her about what her concerns are about the health care bill. this is what she had to say. >> i've been doing a lot of talking since i've been home. with a lot of people. i'm still very concerned about the medicaid, expanded medicaid portion. west virginia has a large amount of folks, over 160,000. while the opoid money is a terrific ad for us as being one of the state's most highly affected, i'm still going to look at the details because i still have some pretty serious questions about where the bill is. >> so you heard what she had to say. she still has some pretty serious conce

of dollars to rent campaign. host: all right, harold. on twitter, here is shelley west virginia.enators who said they would not allow a bill to repeal the affordable care act to even come to debate on the senate floor. potus agreessays that we cannot just to repeal obama care without a replacement plan that addresses the needs of west virginians. in one of the first responses to the senator, club for growth says we are glad you agreed in 2015's bill was repeal and replace. 17 whenpping into a there is potus ready to sign? andvoted in 2015 to repeal maybe you did so because you knew president obama would veto it. but i'm here now and he's waiting for them to take action. the president yesterday saying to senators, you shouldn't leave town until you do so. blue-collar voters and democrat strongholds still support trump. after putting pennsylvania in the republican column in nearly three decades, working-class voters say they are still happy they took a gamble in sending a celebrity new york billionaire to shake up washington. stephen, good morning. go ahead. good morning. not only

of millions more. trump is right now in west virginia there. that is where shelleyoto could have the changing vote. earlier the presint m with what the white house is calling victims of obamacare, and blasted democrats. >> they run out, they say, death, death, death. obamacare is death. that's the one that's death. besides that, it's failing. so you won't have it anyway. they're obstructionists. that's all they're good at is obstruction. >> we can also report for you this hour, top republicans saying they're trying to get a special doctor approval for senator mccain to come back tomorrow during his recovery so he can participate in this health care vote. back with me as promised is senator cory booker. you heard the president there. do you see these people as victims of bowl krair? >> first of all, i want to say my prayers are with john mccain. i had a conversation with him. i'm actually one of the folks that hopes he comes back. he's a fighter and i'm looking forward to wrestling with him on this issue. >> absolutely. >> but there's just outrage in that statement.

west virginia. all of the presidents, wants all of them, but many have gone for the boy scout jam bore e. but it just so happens that shelleyre capito is going to be on air force one. what do you think of that? >> so the president is bringing the bully pulpit to west virginia to try to pressure her to vote at least on a motion to proceed. clearly he wants senators to be able to at least take a shot at voting for the bill. doubtful they could get it across the line. >> is he bringing the bull pi pulpit in or is he going to bully somebody here? >> yeah. he gets 45-minute, uninterrupted shot at twisting shelley moore capito's arm. she's been pretty consistent all along in her reservations, and it does not appear -- again, we don't know exactly what they're going to be starting to vote on. they don't know. but the best we can deduce was what mcconnell is going to put forward tomorrow would not sea the concerns she's expressed in the past. >> but she lives in a state, let's not kid ourselves, that not only voting overwhelmingly for donald trump, but i think it's number one in deaths from over dozens. so what do you do? >> and i

west virginia. shelley moore capito, the senator joining him. another holdup. the type offfort, wolf, we're used to in past administration and frankly the effort you've heard from republicans who wish the president had done to this point. is it too late? that's the question. nobody knows if they have the votes to move on this yet. the question becomes can they turn the votes over the course of the next 24, 48 hours to get the process on track? we'll have to wait and see. >> certainly will. watch it together with you every step of the way. phil mattingly up on capitol hill. >>> up next, new russia sanctions bill triggering mixed signals out of the white house. will the president sign this? putting more pressure on the kremlin. stay with us. where's gary? 'saved money on motorcycle insurance with geico. goin' up the country. later, gary' i have a motorcycle! wonderful. ♪ ♪ i'm goin' up the country, baby don't you wanna go? ♪ ♪ i'm goin' up the country, baby don't you wanna go? ♪ geico motorcycle, great rates for great rides. ♪ backpack, check. that's the family taking care o

of them understand. the president traveling to west virginia where he will be joined by senator shelley, a key hold out on the bill. over the weekend, vice-president mike pence visited ohio, another key hold out, senator rob portman. senate gop leaders are pushing toward a tuesday vote, even no compromise measure in place. there is general confusion among members about what the next steps would be and no clarity about whether they have the votes at all. >> i know many of us have waited literally years for this moment to finally arrive. and at long last it has. i would urge every colleague to join me. >> reporter: republican leaders are launching a pressure play of their own to wrangle l hold outs. >> people have campaigned, republicans over the years, to repeal and replace obamacare. this is our chance and i think it's hard to believe somebody who has run and won election could go home and face the voters again and say, i'm not willing to debate it on the floor. >> reporter: as one gop aide told cnn, forcing the vote serves to smoke members out on their positions and dare to sink an issue they campaigned

of the few senators, one of two republican senators to this, as well as senator lisa murkowski, but also senators like shelley moore cap it out, a republican from west virginia, and senator rob portman from ohio. they are nervous about cuts to entitlement programs. it doesn't go as far as a clean repeal would. that is where all of this is headed toward, and that is why, in speaking with a senior aide to the house freedom caucus, they feel that the current version of that skinny repeal bill, to use this aids words, is "dead on arrival." they don't really see a path forward in that regard or a viable alternative should this go to conference, from their perspective, if it goes the conference, that drag this out longer and closer to the midterm elections. their thinking is, why would you have a major health care vote in the 2018 calendar year so close to the midterm elections? on the flip side, if you talk to the white house, they say, game on. we were able to get this political victory today. who is to say we can't apply that same pressure in the house of representatives? it is going to get very interesting. scarlet: it's just the beginning. shannon pettypiece,

if you're rob portman in ohio, shelley moore capito in west virginia, you have the more time to get the lay ofhe news comes people like the legislation i think they will be okay. what people will find out in most states this legislation sun popular. stuart: what do you make of the report that we received this morning president trump will barnstorm across the midwest in the middle of august stumping for tax cuts? he is lined up his tax-cutting team. they're in good shape. they pretty much have a plan finalized, president trump will lead the push? you're smiling. why? >> they won't be done by middle of august. john mccain will be out for at least a week. whatever the senate passes will go for consideration between both houses of congress. it has to go back to the house. we're weeks or months being away from finished with the health insurance question and then the government shutdown date looms at the end of september. in middle of august taking up new issue about tax cuts is a tough proposition. i would say this. if the president wants to barnstorm for something, if he wants to do, that, do it o

of obamacare. and then see that woman right there, shelley moore capito. ed: capito, yes. steve: is he going to fly to west virginiae one and she is going to be with him. you have got to figure there is going to be talking. ed: a little face time and lobbying time. what's interesting and you may see this more and more with anthony scaramucci. not just the communications inside the white house, dealing with leaks, the daily press briefing but getting this president out in the country more. as you mentioned he is going to west virginia today. is he going to the battle ground state of ohio tomorrow. this was on the books before scaramucci was brought in. but i think the point is you have a president now hes going back to communicate with the american people who elected him. he is also pressuring these republicans who said for six or seven years they were going to repeal and replace obamacare. and for a while here, it's been the president trying to go along with paul ryan and mitch mcconnell. let's all work together on this. if they are not going to get it done from these tweets, he is going to start saying you guys ar

number for medicaid extent expansion sites, dean heller of nevada, rob portman of ohio, shelley of west virginia, surrounded by reporters this week trying to figure out what their opinion is on the spill. those senators will need to see the cbo score monday. the lessee early next week what they will decide to do. >> you mentioned what the week ahead will look like. the cbo score coming out early in the week. if republicans can get the votes to start this process what is the debate process look like? what are the amendment process look like? >> if they can get past this first initial hurdle what should be a big victory for mitch mcconnell, they would have unlimited debate where they have a number of amendments that would be open to the floor. then there hoping after this long arduous process they can bring up different amendments that they can have a final passage and deliver on the promise they been saying to the voters. >> what have you been hearing in terms of the delay a vacation or going back to their districts for the august break? it's unusual. you there capitol hill. what are people sent

a number of senators from medicaid expansion states, like dean heller of nevada, shelley ,oore capito of west virginia surrounded by reporters trying to figure out what their opinion is on this bill. those senators are going to need to see the cbo score on monday. we will see what they are actually going to decide to do. >> the cbo score coming out early in the week. erica talked about that timeline as well on twitter. if republicans can get the vote to start this process them of what is the debate process? what does the amendment process look like? >> if they can get past this first initial hurdle, which would be a big victory, they would have unlimited debate. they would have a number of amendments that would reopen to the floor. they are hoping that after this long, arduous process, senators can bring of different amendments, and have a final passage, and deliver on the promise they have been saying to their constituents. >> what have you heard in terms of the delay, going back to their districts for the august break? you are right there. what is everybody saying about that? >> rob portman said he