officially served divorce papers by his estranged wife shellie zimmerman. at this hour he's out of jail. joining me now, nbc news legal analyst lisa bloom, former prosecutor faith jenkins, and defense attorney ken padowitz. thanks for being here. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> lisa, he's out on bail. but his guns are taken away and we have new allegations of choking. do you have any question now that he's dangerous? >> i have no question that he's dangerous. you know, either george zimmerman is constantly surrounded by people who are, quote, crazy -- his word. he said trayvon martin jumped out of the bushes at him. now he says this woman went crazy. he said two months ago that shellie zimmerman was the instigator and causing problems. everybody around zimmerman by coincidence happens to go crazy. or he's lying and provokes people. either way, there's no set of

>> probably not because that would be an out of court statement by shellie.et her into trial to say he threatened her in similar ways. and broken items. today we're hearing about a broken glass table. that's a big event in the middle of an argument to break a glass coffee table and break her glasses. also barricading himself in the home, what's that about? but i would expect him to say he was trying to defend himself from her coming back to attack him. i'm sure we'll hear something like that. >> i'm going to have to leave it there. we'll probably be talking about it tomorrow after the arraign pmt thank you both for your time tonight. >> thank you. >>> coming up, why are new mexico state police shooting at a car with five kids inside? it's raising a lot of questions today. >>> but first, my interview with oprah. it was surprising even to me. that's next. and just give them the basics, you know. i got this. [thinking] is it that time? the son picks up the check? [thinking] i'm still working. he's retired. i hope he's saving. i hope he saved enough. who matters

>> i want to go back to his wife, shellie zimmerman, she is divorcing him. said in september about george zimmerman. >> in my opinion, he feels more invincible. he is making reckless decisions. i have been married to a person for almost seven years and i don't think i ever really knew him at all. >> joy, that was right after she had an incident with, her father did, with george zimmerman. in which in the end they decided not to get involved by pressing charges because, it could be complicated for her but that invincible -- feeling -- seems to be, what, what is being demonstrated. >> remember the track record is that his encounters with law enforcement, ended in his favor. an additional incident with a police officer, he was accused, charged with battering an officer. ended up being adjudicated. served no time for that. you have domestic violence incidents.

why couldn't you go there, shellie? because i just couldn't allow myself to understand or realize the monster that i was married to. i was drinking the kool-aid. in other words, i was actively involved in trying to not understand what the truth is of this person, this fake of a person that i was married to. >> i do not believe for one second that this domestic incident that occurred a couple of months ago was the first incident of violence that george zimmerman has displayed towards this woman. i'm talking about more than that. in 2005 the prior domestic incident. so when she says she played the supportive role of the wife, that speaks to me. she knew she was playing a role then. i don't think she's still telling everything that she knows about what george told her about what happened that night. and i also don't believe she's telling everything about their relationship. and the volatileness of that relationship. >> the bottom line is for her to acknowledge that she was a party to the mirage that they put out there that

shelly zimmerman telling a story similar to this one. you're right about the 911 call. that's supposed to be for emergencies. he knows that 911 immediately gets released to the media. he calls 911 as a p.r. move to set the record straight while the police are banging on the door and the 911 operator says just go talk to them, they're right outside but his story is not going to get out that way. >> he says why are you calling me and he said i want to get my story out. there's more tape here to play of samantha. we have played george zimmerman in full. i didn't want to edit any of that out. only one of them can be telling the truth. if it is not george zimmerman telling the truth,that is the voice of george zimmerman in a cold, calm lie and that is a vote and tone that we have heard from him before. let's listen to samantha saying that he knows how to play this game. let's listen to this. >> i want you to step away from the door, okay? i don't want you anywhere near him. >> he knows how to do this. he knows how to play this game. >> okay. >> joy, he certainly does know ho

shelly call the questions arrest on the matter commissioner antonini. sxhrnd. commissioner hillis. commissioner moore. commissioner wu and president fong. no. sxhirgsz that motion passes 5 to one with president fong voting against and places you on item 17 case 13.1286 d and i have a question. those plans are even more - >> i'm sorry. i want to understand are you looking the plans for barring let street because it's bans what we decided on the other case. it seems to me those plans have less information >> this is the project that lies completely different. i want to say that's a completely different thing it's legal listing something that's there so the plan is completely different. >> please continue. >> item 17. at 259 a request for discretionary review this is an abbreviated discretionary review >> good afternoon, commissioners in the a discretionary review to legal liza desk on 2151 barring let located in the midgets strict this murders approximately 2 hundred square feet of desk area. you have the case report materials and at this time staff has nothing further to add the pro

shellie zimmerman gave her take. what she told katie couric on her talk show, "katie". >> i don't know who george is anymore. i would like to think i married a person who was a good person and going through the past year and a half, i don't know how that changes a person or how a person's spirit breaks, but it certainly seems like that's what happened to him. i found out that he was lying about a lot of things, and he became like a pacing lion. very unpredictable. every single day it was like adrenaline going through my body constantly not knowing what it was going to be like from day to day. >> shellie zimmerman of course stood by her husband during the murder trial. curricasked if she had results about that. she said part of her does. she said she doesn't think george zimmerman is racist. for the first time his former attorney is speaking out, mark o'mara helped get zimmerman acquitted of murder in july. hey, good to have you here. obviously, you did not know george zimmerman before trayvon martin was killed. she s

this one from estranged wife shellie zimmerman. >> he is going to shoot us.ark on his face. glasses on the floor. he accosted my father. took my ipad out of my hand and smashed it. cut it. and with a pocketknife. >> reporter: moments later police arrived prepared for a hostage situation. police say they had their guns drawn and were carrying ballistic shields. zimmerman seen here in the plaid shirt and sunglasses was questioned by police, later released and never charged. >> we are trying to figure out who touched whom, whose allegations belong to whom? shellie zimmerman announced she wouldn't beep pressing charges. prosecutors dropped the case. but zimmerman would not leave her home. tonight it is unclear where zimmerman who has no permanent address will go. it seems the only certainty in his life is his next court date. january 7. back in the seminole county courthouse. for "nightline," matt gutman in sanford, florida. >>> attorney general eric holder said today that the justice department will soon announce a decision on whether to file federal civil right

a traffic va lags and two months ago police responded to a fight between zimmerman and his wife, shellie. no charges were filed and the two are in the process of formalizing their divorce. i want to bring in lisa bloom who has an upcoming book, "the inside story of the trayvon martin injustice and why we are doomed to repeat it" and attorney faith jenkins who has no ties to this case but has certainly been following it as all of us. lisa, let me start with you. now responded to these two domestic violence incidents. he told dispatchers that his girlfriend is pregnant. the girlfriend denies that. when we talk about this first appearance today, is it likely that the judge would grant him wan bond? >> that's a tough call. i know in addition the state attorneys will ask that zimmerman's guns be taken away. i think if he does get bond that is absolutely key. there are just too many incidents that are strikingly similar. shellie zimmerman just two months ago saying zimmerman was pointing a gun at her in a threatening manner, making her leave the home that was her home. and now just yesterday w

. >> reporter: this is shelly our self-driving audi tt is, self-driving racing car. does that seem wise? >> we think it's a great idea. not remote controlled, self- driving thanks to the beefed up gps antennas. >> by using the radio corrections we -- connections we can figure out where we are within centimeters. >> reporter: i'm not doing anything now. >> you went off the road, dude. >> that is the rumble strip. any racecar driver will tell that you. >> reporter: riding shelly is like a violent carnival ride, her driving maneuvers are not shall we say subtle. >> you can watch more on cbs sunday morning starting at 6:00 a.m. >> well talk about speed, we're talking about wind speeds and we're in a little bit of a lull right nowment we had gusty winds a little bitter earlier this evening and now as we call up our live doppler radar, featuring two separate sites because we have an area low pressure from the north to the south. it's dry and precipitation free, but behind it the winds are increasing and the national weather service issued a wind advisory from now until 7:0

and let's not forget about shelly zimmerman, george zimmerman's soon to be ex-wife. her own 911 call she made two months ago, where again a gun was involved. police were involved. allegations of physical abuse. an allegation that george zimmerman had punched shelly zimmerman's father in the face. but nothing came of that, because no charges were filed. so here we are, find ourselves once again looking at george zimmerman involved -- having interaction with the police with guns involved. but this time, he's back in jail. >> jonathan capehart of "the washington post," i would encourage our viewers to read your column. it was excellent, thank you so much. >> thank you, martin. >> the day's hop lines coming up. the health care rollout versus hurricane katrina? >> katrina. >> hurricane katrina. yes, i believe we have all seen the damning photos of the presidential flyover surveying the human suffering of the healthcare.gov website. from the same system. i'm tony siragusa and i'm training guys who leak a little, to guard their manhood with new depend shields and guards. th

he said two months ago that shellie zimmerman was the instigator and causing problems. everybody around zimmerman by coincidence happens to go crazy. or he's lying and provokes people. either way, there's no set of facts under which he should be having guns in his possession. thank goozness they're out of his possession today. >> you know, faith, it does seem like a pattern with every case that we've now seen starting with trayvon and then his wife and now this. where he turns the case around that he has become the victim of someone who has either approached him or was attempting to assault him or went crazy on him. and i thought what was very interesting, faith is his 911 call. why would you call 911 when the police are already there and you say they're banging on the door and banging on the window? why are you calling 911 to tell a story when you could talk to them? just open the door. i mean, that was kind of weird. >> well, it was strange. but it's a part of what george zimmerman does. this is a person who's been involved in the system for a very long time. he knows

shellie zimmerman also said george threatened her with a gun although she didn't want to press charges. she has since filed for divorce and he's been pulled over a couple of times for speeding. you wonder if this could put any pressure on the justice department. the trayvon martin case was still an open federal case. >> i think it would be hard for them to connect the two but it's clear, this pattern of behavior that was referenced earlier, this is the sort of pattern of behavior that leads up to the tragedy we saw last year. we've already passed that pointing. the 2005 incident that you referenced, he had to go to anger management training. this is eight years ago. now he is still getting into confrontations with his girlfriend who said he had a shotgun, an air gun and two handguns. there's something that's not working right and i'm not sure the justice department can solve it. >> the real issue and it's an issue as a society we don't be willing to engage is the gun issue. why should this fellow be allowed to have a gun? he clearly should not. >> and the question then becomes what is

, i wanted to give you an updated on the silver cottages work has stopped they site but on monday shelly of our staff and myself met with the project sponsors reviewed the condition of the cottages. and they're working on security measures foyer the cottages while they awe witting wait the lawsuit. the protection plan is short term hopefully and it will begin in less than 90 days. the project spokesperson will know more this week and mark hal beggar is in the audience and happy to answer any questions. we're working closely together and hoping to have a resolution to any stoucht issues in the short-term. the second is last week, i gave a brief presentation at the cities graffiti board from the graffiti incident at the high beggar bank. the advisory board had questions about the historic preservation commission relating to abatement. they're trying to encourage property owners to put in a report. i expressed our willingness to work with them to achieve some of those golds and we'll be coordinating with the department of public works to see how we can work better together. p that concludes

there was his ex-fiancee in 2005, just this year, shellie zimmerman made similar accusations against him, and now today, his girlfriend. do we believe that all of these welcome up with similar allegations, and yet he is constantly the victim? because that is his story. i think most people would find it hard to believe. >> yeah, and so do the police or they wouldn't have charged him. and next, you hear these 911 calls, the first from a panicky girlfriend saying he is threatening to smash the place up, waving guns, then you hear him calling after he goes outside to talk to the police. and he has a measured tone and is explaining it all very simply. almost as if you were being cynical, he is covering the tracks of the damage already created. >> why is he calling 911, the operator asks, when the police are right outside? go talk to the police, you know, the 911 is not supposed to be for media and pr, to tell your side of the story. it is supposed to be for people who actually have emergencies. he is calling in other words, to give his side of the story which he does, in a very calm way.

this is shellie zimmerman once again with katie couric. >> i found out that he was lying about a lothe became like a pacing lion, very unpredictable. every single day, it was like adrenaline going through my body constantly, not knowing what it was going to be like from day to day. >> jeffrey, from a legal standpoint, does any of this matter? >> well, certainly the trayvon martin case is over. that can't be reopened. he can't be prosecuted for it. you know, what's frustrating about hearing this is if there was evidence that could have been relevant to the jury in the trayvon martin case, it would have been nice to hear it when it still mattered. her statement is sufficiently vague that it's hard to know whether it would be admissible evidence and of course, she was his wife at that point, but still, if there was evidence of things he said, about his temper, about his behavior on the night in question, it sure would have been good to hear it then instead of on a talk show. >> jeffrey toobin, sunny hostin, thanks very much. >>> just ahead, i will speak live with senator john mccain. we

>> shelly preservation staff we worked with the consultant to try to craft a project to meet the standards as close as possible. some of the perimeters wore to get below the threshold defining the demolition. we use article 10 for demolition in our sequa analysis just for some parallel review between our sequa review and other reviews in our department. essentially, we neat to do preserve about 50 percent of the building materials in order to stable the threshold. in order to create a feasible alternative as required under sequa the project sponsor was marked out while staying within the rehabilitation standards. so that's how we arrived at the amount of material that should be retained on the site. we looked at the height and massing there were proposed and tried to imagine some setbacks which would respect the character of the district which would allow the historic sites to read individual of the sites i behind them not necessarily connected to the historic buildings. we used the visual models to kind of play around with the different massing studies which might achieve that. meanwhile

. >> shelly i had a question. thank you there was the conversation been about the 18 inch curtain on the or on the secondary facade what was the purpose of that? why was something added and then related to that the staff is suggesting that the railing there should be different from the railings that's different on the other levels? >> i'll start with the second part wire recommending that the railing above the wall be lighter. they'll be used in different context and we think the handrail in the front yard should be historic. and it didn't >> the clerk will read the journal from the previous day add to the retaining wall. the proposal is to now getting to the first part of our question. the architect or the project sponsor has chosen to add the 18 inch curb to the topic of the retaining wall. i'm not sure we hadn't discussed other than to create more privacy around that level i'm not sure you might ask the architect. to meet the 42 manipulative railing requirement >> thank you, commissioner. >> i have a followup q

. >> shelly put this up for john then sake. i'm trying to find an appropriate location. see that's not the same elevation. this stringcourse has not been recreated. >> the windows don't line up either. >> well. do we have an approval to say there's at least some dimension we're going to condition >> so your roofline don't work. >> it's on on top of the window. >> let's look at the constitutional picture, you know. >> to go up to the. >> let's see if it was installed that way. >> we're going to go up to the window which is almost loin with the door. >> i have a built picture here. >> in fact, wait a minute do they pull that up. >> as you can see in the built condition it didn't match the proposed condition in your packet. i'm sorry about that >> expect for that the too below the main door. >> the one that didn't get installed. >> it was a stair window it was during the schools occupation of the building and so i guess i'm a little bit more confused. we have a package that's a revision of what was approved but what was built didn't match what we're approving today. ii don'

we have to listen to shellie zimmerman who also said in that interview police said she would go to jailsed domestic violence charges against george zimmerman. i hope that's not true. i think people can responsibly own guns in this country. but george zimmerman is clearly not one of them. >> clint, what do you think about this that mrs. zimmerman was told she could go to jail? >> i hope someone like lisa would be there to stand up and defend them. this is a guy that was taking prescription drugs at the time of the shooting. his girlfriend said he was depressed, that he fought with his wife the night of the shooting. you know, you take that -- >> shooting of trayvon martin. >> -- anger, depression, rage, and guns. that spelled murder that night. >> you're talking about the night of trayvon martin shooting when he killed trayvon martin. >> exactly. the night of trayvon martin shooting, supposedly he had four different prescription drugs, antianxiety included, that he had fought with his wife that night, that she had left and al you've got this volcano of emotions that was moving through th

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in september, he was arrested following a domestic dispute with his estranged wife shellie, just days after she filed for divorce, but no charges were filed. zimmerman will appear in court on tuesday. vinita nair, cbs news. >>> a pennsylvania minister will learn his fate this morning. reverend frank schaefer was convicted on monday of breaking methodist church law by officiating his son's same-sex wedding. the methodist church accepts gay and lesbian members but it is incompatible with the christian teaching. a church jury will decide his punishment. >>> and a sibling spat over same-sex marriage has embroiled one of the most prominent families. it's about more than just politics for the daughters of former vice president dick cheney. nancy cordes reports. >> reporter: the family feud burst into public view on sunday after liz cheney was asked about same-sex marriage on fox news sunday. >> i do believe in the traditional definition of marriage. >> reporter: cheney's sister mary wedded her longtime partner heather poe in 2012 and they have two children. >> i love her family very much. t

ticket for another speeding incidents and was involved in a domestic dispute with his estranged wife shelly. and at 4:30 p.m. today, zimmerman posted board and was released from the john pope correctional facility. zimmerman's estranged wife served him with divorce papers. is the fact that he calls the cops afterwards to get on the record with his side of the story and if you don't know anything about him and you don't know any of the context, he sounds reasonable and calm and i remembered that video that we all saw played in that trial in which he's getting to tell his side of the story to cops the morning after reasonably and calmly and i thought, that is the part the jury saw, this george zimmerman, not the one that was on the other tape with the smashed coffee table. >> you know, there's something to that. i don't know george zimmerman, but i know that guy. it's always when the abuser, he is manipulative, when he or she is manipulative, they tend to make situations to their own benefit and that's what george zimmerman was doing here. the police were outside his door. he could have gone

his ex-wife shellie says he thinks he's invincible.t's only a matter of time before he brings himself down. >> just a few seconds. therefore, you think all this media coverage is warranted because he is kind of self-destructing before our eyes? >> we have to find out how the story ends, howie. every time that he does something like this, we're going to be watching. >> all right. lisa blum, thanks very much for joining us from l.a. >> thank you. >>> meanwhile, when senate democrats abolished the filibuster this week for most presidential nominees, i don't think the media did quite enough to highlight the raw hypocrisy on both sides. both the politicians and the pundits. when senate republicans considered a similar move during the bush years, "the new york times" editorial page called it rank hypocrisy by the gop. now says, quote, the democrats had little choice but to change the filibuster review. national review, on the other hand, backed the republicans curtailing filibusters under president bush but now says the democrats, quote, are

shelly milky noticed that one of your had arranged these beautiful color leaves. said i did the same thing with the leads in my front yard. there is the array that resulted. beautiful shots. and from michigan sunday, dr. john sent us these beautiful shots. fall colors in chicago. nice shot. robert shaw sent us the fall colors out there. and enjoy a, these colors are amazing. and from another person, this is a comment that has been widely talked-about in astronomical circles. it may be the comment of the century with a tail that at some point those across the sky. he is really good with the astronomical shots. thank-you sheldon. thank-you for the nighttime shots of me youreteor. it rained this morning but now the skies are clearing and wait until you see some of these temperatures. the chilliest night in e 11 with the coolest highs this month. look at the readings. in the '20s and the western suburbs. '30's in the city. possibly 40 at the shoreline at work to just the 40's tomorrow. tomorrow night look at temperatures cooling down into the big 20's away from the la