>> there i continue walking in a southerly direction, merging toward the middle of sheriton road. >> at that point do you become aware of something? >> as i'm walking, i start to look because i realize mr. bulch is not with me anymore. >> did you continue down the road without him? >> no, i actually went to go look for mr. bulch in the ultimate gas station parking lot. >> okay. when you went to the ultimate gas station parking lot, describe what was going on there. >> there were a lot of people there. i don't really know what was going on. i was just focussed on trying to find mr. bulch. as i was looking for him, i couldn't find him. i said okay, no problem. i'll just go back to the car source number two. >> okay. and describe what happened as you did that. >> as i said that, i received a phone call from dominic black. >> okay. let me back up. were you able to get back to car source number two? >> i did not. >> describe that. >> as i was trying to get back, the police stopped me -- well, didn't stop me. they told me, i believe they said something along the lines to not go down there,