miller, pulitzer prize-winning journalist. judy, i am going to start with you. i had on democrat congressman shermanthe worst things that's there are worse things that have happened in the middle east. what do you say? >> this is true. there are terrible things happening in the middle east, the united states has long ignored either because it didn't directly affect our national security, such as 500,000 dead in the civil war in syria, a proxy war between iran and other people, such as people in turkey, which is now raking the saudis over the coals for khashoggi's murder but they have journalists in jail, they kill and repressed people. there are terrible things that go on in this region and i understand why president trump has taken the position he has, it is just what every other president would've done and has gone on for a long time. >> there is no plan b, there is no replacement for saudi arabia and our relationships in the middle east but the one thing i think this does alter is the relationship with salman. this does bring into acute question his judgment. >> harris: you have senator lindsey g