joining us now is sherrilyn ifill, legal and education defense found. thanks for being here.eal pleasure having you. >> thanks for having me. >> what do you think eric holder's most enduring legacy will be? obviously we know as the nation's first african-american attorney general that will always be the first line said about him in the history books but what else is going to make history about him too? >> well, i think he has been so courageous and so bold in two areas that i think are too often not focused on what people think about the attorney general of the united states. the first one is the civil rights area that you've talked about, what the attorney general has done in the area of voting rights and speaking powerfully about civil rights. many people may know that the attorney general's sister-in-law was vivian malone, the young woman who was the first student to desegregate the university of alabama. it was governor wallace standing in the courthouse door against her so he feels this deeply in his personal self and he was willing to speak powerfully about civil rights