joining us now, sherrilyn ifill, president of the naacp legal defense and education fund. ms. ifill, it's great to see you. thank you for joining me tonight. >> thank you, rachel. >> i first have to ask if the decision in michigan to certify election results has any effect on your lawsuit and the aims of your plaintiffs here? >> well, we've been monitoring this very, very closely. we monitored the actions of the president that we could learn this weekend, and of the two republicans who went to meet with him at the white house, and we're going to continue monitoring. obviously, today, we were happy to see, and we, you know, we played at the top of the show the member of the canvassing board saying we have to uphold the rule of law. we were happy and gratified to see that today. but you know, whether or not mr. trump is successful in his attempts to coerce, the attempt to coerce and to intimidate members of the canvassing board in wayne county and then the state canvassing board to somehow discredit the vote of black voters in detroit, nevertheless, is a violation of section 11b