also, a preview of the health care summit in washington with sherrod brown. he sits on the committee that oversees health care. tomorrow, members of both parties will join president obama for a nationally televised conversation about health care reform. we are glad you have joined us. the senators are coming up right now. >> there are so many things that walmart is looking forward to doing, like helping people live better. mostly, we're looking forward to help building stronger communities and relationships. the best is yet to come. >> nationwide insurance proudly supports tavis smiley. chavis and nationwide insurance, working to improve -- tavis and nationwide insurance, working to improve stability. >> and by contributions to your pbs stations by viewers like you. thank you. [captioning made possible by kcet public television] >> evan bayh recently announced his decision not to seek another term in the senate. he also served two terms as governor of indiana. he joins us tonight from capitol hill. it is always good to have you back on the program. >> good to

efforts to blunt the ruling's impact including legislation introduced today by democratic senator sherrod brownohio. talking points memo did some great reporting this week on how as expected conservative minded libertarian minded tea partiers are also disgusted by the supreme court ruling on the grounds that it undermines individual freedom to participate in american politics because individual participation just gets bigfooted by corporate participation. one texas based tea partier told the website tpm that this ruling, quote, attacks everything this country stands for. even the illiterate racist tea party guy we keep talking about on the show, even he is against the supreme court ruling. del robertson the leader of tea party.org slammed the ruling and said it, quote, puts the people at a tremendous disadvantage. in the face of that reaction from even the extreme tea party folks that republicans would love to count as their base right now, here's how elected republicans are treating the ruling so far. senate minority leader mitch mcconnell said, quote, any proponent of free speech should appla

. >> senator sherrod brown of ohio with us, i want to know, why would democrats stop this project of $30 billion to create jobs because it is t.a.r.p. money? what's the big deal? will they take the t.a.r.p. money to wall street, but, oh, by the way, when we got to do it for small businesses, get it through community banks, all of a sudden we got to start counting pennies? any democrat that stands in the way of t.a.r.p. money going to community banks to help businesses is trying to sabotage your president. this response. >> i don't know of any democrats that oppose that idea. maybe there are some. if there are, maybe they ought to speak up and we need to talk to them. there are still too many democrats that are too apologetic. this economy was going to hell a year ago. the auto industry was about to collapse. that just didn't mean auto worker lost jobs. it mention pension, health care, all that. you know all those things were happening. we shouldn't be apologizing. it took george bush a decade -- or took him eight years to create these problems. we've starting cleaning it up in a year

. >> as for the democrats, sherrod brown of ohio -- and we're going to have to start being specific about them -- complaining today that the president has not provided enough leadership on health care. so is there a signal in there that the democrats are going to try to stop leading themselves to whatever degree they were in the senate? >> i think what that is a signal of is that there's trouble brewing on the democratic side. the democratic national committee's in town meeting here in washington. i talked to one member, high ranking member. they're mad at the white house. they don't think they've handled political things well. there's a lot of tension between the senate democrats and the leadership downtown at the white house. i think in a moment here if obama can't win a few here, if he can't win a couple of things, there's going to be a lot of tension breaking out in the open among the democratic coalition and of course that's exactly what mitch mcconnell's plan is. that's exactly what he's been trying to do, and so far it's worked. and i don't see any evidence in scott brown of a chan

. >>> ohio senator sherrod brown with us tonight here "the ed show." senator, why is this jobs package the hot ticket? what do you think? >> well, it is something we have to do and i mean i want the republicans on board, as you do, but i think we put good legislation on the floor and we keep doing it and keep doing it and keep doing it eventually public -- if they keep fill bustering and keep -- we can't get 60 votes, then eventually public pressure pushes them to do it. for instance, we ought to do this bank tax, levied at the big banks that, frankly you got all kinds of benefits from something we had to do, the bank bailout, and use that -- those tax revenues into the big banks for a jobs program. we keep putting that on the floor. they keep saying we have to have 60 votes. we keep trying to. we keep trying. eventually, they are embarrassed into passing, in my view. and we got to show whose side are you on and the public, this massachusetts -- polling out of the massachusetts ray the voters thought government is more on the side of wall street than m

senate who has a spouse that has won a pulitzer prize -- sherrod brown from ohio.ughter] >> thank you for joining us and thank you for your visit to lorain county, ohio, a week and a half ago. first presidential visit to that county of 300,000 since harry truman in 1948. >> it was a great visit. we had a great time. 10 miles from there, oberlin college, one of the great private institutions of higher learning in this country, there was a building built there seven or eight years ago, fully powered by solar panels. it is the largest building on any college campus in america like that. those solar panels were bought in germany and japan, not surprisingly. 75 miles west of there is toledo, ohio, and toledo has more solar energy manufacturing jobs than any city in america. it begs the question of two things in terms of manufacturing policy and energy policy. we have all kinds of things in so many of our states -- manufacturing wind turbine components and solar panel components -- but we're the only industrial country in the world without a manufacturing policy. every r

durbin: last week i joined sherrod brown on a trip to south africa. went to tanzania, congo, ethiopia and sudan. we went there to observe american development assistance, to look at programs that help with victims of h.i.v. and aids, tuberculosis, malaria, child and maternal mortality, victims of sexual violence, clean water, sanitation issues, democracy, governance, refugees. in a matter of six days traveling on the continent of africa, senator brown and i didn't have much time to ourselves but we weren't planning any. we spent a lot of time meeting with people, meeting with government officials, meeting with individuals who are part of the current political environment of africa but also touched many of -- many of their lives are touched by programs that the united states is involved in. i couldn't help but notice as i traveled the extraordinarily dedicated americans who are in our foreign service. many of them are posted in places around the world that are not glamorous, by any means. their jobs are hard and sometimes dangerous and they go to work

person that's a member of the united states senate who has a spouse that's won a pulitzer prize -- sherrod brownrom ohio. [laughter] >> thank you for joining us. thank you for your visit to lorain county, ohio, a week and a half ago; first presidential visit to that county of 300,000 since harry truman in 1948. >> it was a great visit. we had a great time. >> it was terrific. ten miles from there, oberlin college, one of the great private institutions of higher learning in this country -- at oberlin college, there was a building built there seven or eight years ago, fully powered by solar panels. it's the only -- it's the largest building on any college campus in america like that. those solar panels were bought in germany and japan, not surprisingly -- germany, a country that has both an energy policy and a manufacturing policy. seventy-five miles west of there is toledo, ohio, where you've been several times, and toledo has more solar energy manufacturing -- solar manufacturing jobs than any city in america. it begs the question of two things in terms of manufacturing policy and energy policy.

. >> host: among the senators asking questions, sherrod brown of ohio. here is a call on our republican's line. good morning. >> caller: good morning. i was wondering, you know, i live here in toledo, and there's a lot of roads that need to be done because everyone of them, most of them here in toledo is all bumpy. i was one of what they're going to do with that. >> host: is that it? >> caller: yes. >> host: thank you for your call. cleveland, ohio, on our independent's line. welcome. harry, we will put you on hold. meanwhile, david on our democrat's line. >> caller: how you doing? i have a few comments here. first of all, the individual with the cardio in pennsylvania, when he commented that you don't give money to small businesses, that is the most ridiculous thing i've ever heard. i am to businesses, and if i can get a $300,000 on right now, i can open up another location in baltimore, and have it staffed. >> host: what kind of business do you have? >> caller: i do very high end screen porches, liberty screens.com. i been doing this for six years. it'