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joining us here in washington, is democratic senator sherrod brown of the great state of ohio. senator brown, thank you for being here tonight. >> you bet, rachel. thank you. >> today's speech had a pretty overtly populist message from president obama. do you feel like that is the right note to be sounding in today's politics? and in today's economy? >> yeah, it's the right note for a couple reasons. first of all, this view from many in the mainstream media that populism is about a bunch of people with pitchforks storming the castle has it wrong. populism is fighting for workers, fair trade, fighting for jobs, taking on special interests. when wall street does what it does. when insurance companies or drug companies do what they do. and that's exactly why -- that's why his tone was exactly right. to me, it's more interesting, not so much this is the beginning of his campaign. my interest is the impact it has on the congress to finally move away from special interests and do what we ought to do on infrastructure, on jobs, generally on the payroll tax, on protecting medicare. all

i'm a big sherrod brown fan. sherrod brown looks like the perfect labor democratic senator in ohio.hing right in tezmr of labor issues, tax issues, middle class issues, how can he lose? he's such the perfect democrat for that state? >> i -- >> christina, please. >> roll call has this rated that it is a seat that is probably going to remain in democratic hands. for all the reasons that you outline, he's got a pretty strong organization. the republican likely nominee is josh mandel, he's pretty strong but brown is one of those interesting candidates who won in 2006, he ousted mike dewine and really representative, you know, of a vulnerable democrat right after the republicans did so well in ohio in 2010 and actually he's doing okay. polls better than barack obama in his home state and has been able to sort of keep his focus there and a lot of people like him. he might be okay and that's going against the national mood in some sense. >> let me give you another winner for the democrats, i believe in, a close race. i think tim kaine is going to knock off george allen. i any george allen

we had sherrod brown on.o, sat there with a straight face and said he wasn't going to tell a 62-year-old woman in youngstown, ohio that medicare needed to be touched. >> that was this morning. >> that just wasn't fair. after the segment he said, tell that to a 62-year-old woman in greece. we are -- we have republicans and democrats alike in washington, d.c. that seem to be living in the 1990s that don't understand the growing disparity, don't understand the growing debt, that don't understand that our tack -- the taxes we collect are 13% of gdp while our spending is 26% of gdp. i don't know how we face these challenges. >> we have had three or four bites at the apple to try to face up to it -- bowles/simpson and negotiations over the debt ceiling and the negotiations between the president and the speak herb. and the such committee. and we didn't do it. now it appears we won't until after the election. and that sets a bad example. it alienates voters. it also keeps the united states from playing a constructive

. >> kelly: 1220, the republicans will take the senate, and pickups, ohio sherrod brown will lose. >>f they're going to take the senate. how many are they going to take. >> mid 50's. >> paul: that might be seven or eight seats, nat. >> going to be a big year, no matter what happens in the presidential. >> no kidding, all right, matt? >> he think this campaign will be decided by the economy or obama care, i think that the october surprise will be a war in the persian gulf most likely a strike by the iran we will note know in the u.s. ahead of time. >> they will not tell barack obama ahead of time. >> i don't think so, they do not trust this administration. >> that would happe

ohio, shar sherrod brown, is actually running ahead of barack obama right now. gwen: it's interesting the he people who decided to retire and leave congress are more likely to be liberals who are discouraged or conservatives discouraged. you think about lynn woolsey in california, barney frank in massachusetts, staunch liberals throwing up their hands and decided to quit. is there any significance to that? >> i think there may be some to that. i also think to a certain extent their veteran lawmakers. if you look at members like barney frank, who had their marquee legislative achievement in the dodd-frank overhaul regulatory, they reached sort of the end of their legislative career and they know that. i'm not sure barney frank would have any problems getting re-elected. gwen: he ran a tighter-than-expected race last time. >> if he won in 2010, hard to see how 2012 would be a harder year for democrats than 2010 was. >> and redistricting was so important for frank. they loss a seat in massachusetts and had to reconfigure the seats. gwen: are there other place where

a way as deposits to lower interest rates for worker own companies and over on the other side sherrod brown has been talking with legislation to help to develop worker co-ops so there's kind of kind of an interesting thing i don't think it has been shaken out yet and of course when we get to the larger level when some of these banks and the wall street banks are i'm sure there's going to be a big fight when the next big crisis comes there's going to be demands that take them over and that's going to be a big fight politically but at the local level in some areas there's a lot of kind of coherence that you don't find the same kind of ideology in most local. particularly when there's a great deal of economic pain and people are looking for answers and that's what's very interesting about this period is there any any conversation about this on capitol hill there are there is some conversation there's a co-op bill is being and she was introduced this week to foster co-ops this is the year of the co-ops the united nations there's this work that i think the aesop form . one of the most conservati

now for an interjection of our -- introduction of our nominee, senator sherrod brown will introduce richard cordray. senator brown. >> thank you again, mr. chairman. it's my honor to introduce one of the finest public servants i've ever met, richard cordray. rich's mother was a social worker, his father who has been legally blind since birth work with the the developmentally disabled for 43 years. it's clear where rich cordray and his family learned about public service. as ohio's attorney general, he was a strong voice for ohioans who struggle today stay in their homes and consumers who faced unfair practices by deceptive lenders. he targeted financial institutions including fannie mae that used accounting fraud to undermine investments by pension funds that provided retirement security for teachers and janitors and secretaries. he took on unscrupulous actors, he worked closely with ohio's banks to craft targeted legislation to prevent banks from engaging in predatory lending. he was a treasurer in franklin county, the state's second largest county, the home of the state capital, and he pr

her colleagues, senator rubio, snow, jihad, stabenow, turbine, blumenthal, bill nelson, read, sherrod brown and baucus have all offered at this bill close the loophole. this is very so much of the legislation that was first introduced in the house by congresswoman louise slaughter and congressman tim walz. someone to thank them for their long-standing commitment to this issue and advocacy they also want to recognize my colleague, senator scott brown for requesting today's hearing and for his very strong work on this issue as well. our bill which has received the support of at least seven good government groups have basic important principles first. it says members of congress, their families, their staff should be barred from buying and selling securities on the basis of knowledge gained through the congressional service or from using that knowledge to tip off anyone else. the ncc, cftc must be empowered to investigate these cases. to provide additional teeth, such acts should also be in violation of congress is own rules. to make clear, the activities not only illegal but appropriate for t

return appearances from patti ann browne, fox news contributor tucker carlson and comedian veronica mosey. >> time to go back to sherrod small for the post game wrap up. >> leeann, tell me about your lingerie line for heroes and patriots. >> yes, you can find it at leeann tweeden .com. it is affordable lingerie by elephant moments and my proud moment is heroes and patriots. we are trying to do a lot of good stuff. >> heroes and patriots sounds good. do we have pictures in there? >> there are. >> i will be there. >> thank you. >> pete ?er. >> yes, sir. what are you getting your wife for christmas? >> thank you for asking, sherrod. i haven't gotten her anything. i thought tonight i could get her plugs. plugs, sherrod. she has a plug about religion and spiritual wall tee. it is called smile with your entire body .com. >> are you visiting that too? >> yes, i might go. >> daff vin, tell me about your shirt. >> it is my friend's restaurant, the cardinal, best