we'll be right back. >>> welcome back to "beyond the headlines," i'm sheryl jennings. today we've been talking about the premiere conference for women in business. the goal of the day to unlock the full potential of women in the workplace. it's happening may 23rd in san francisco at muss coney center west. alexandra roddy is here with us now. the senior vice president of strategy and delivery and she will be at the pbwc conference and you have such a great personal story about how you got involved. so, i think it started when you're a single mom or a mom? >> yeah, so until 2012 or 2011, i guess, i was a single mother focused on raising my son. so it wasn't really possible for me, balancing career and baseball games and hockey games and all of that stuff to do as much as i wanted to in the charitable space. i've always been a big believer in we need to lift as we rise. my son is a sophomore studying history at columbia university in new york, so he's far, far away and i have time on my hands so i joined the board of a charitable organization in my city, the downtown oak

sheryl sandberg's book is very important. women need to learn to lean back, recharge, renew ourselves. otherwise, this life is not sustainable, either at the individual or collective level. tavis: there are a lot of women who wanted the sheryl sandberg, a lot of people have entered into this rat race of corporate america and they want to escalate to the top. god bless them if that is what they want to do with their lives. is sheryl sandberg the kind of woman to advance a conversation about the role of women in america? >> the issue that she raises in her book are absolutely key. whether they are struggling to find a job or putting food on a table, or if they are running a big, multinational corporation. her point is that there are institutional barriers to success, but there are also personal, individual barriers to success, the voices in our heads that tell us we are not good enough. these are the voices that she is addressing in her book. she asks women to ask that question, what would i do if i was not afraid? a lot of the

but it is both. >> o'donnell: but sheryl, you are...you're one of the most powerful women in the world, and you still can't attribute your success to your own core skills? >> sandberg: no, i can s... i can more. >> o'donnell: it's that mindset that led sheryl sandberg to reach the conclusion that's at the heart of her book: it's not just men who hold women back; women do it to themselves. they play it too safe at work, worry too much about being liked, and turn down opportunities in anticipation of having a family one day. >> sandberg: they start leaning back. they say, "oh, i'm busy. i want to have a child one day. i couldn't possibly, you know, take on any more," or "i'm still learning on my current job." i've never had a man say that stuff to me. >> o'donnell: you're suggesting women aren't ambitious. >> sandberg: i'm not suggesting women aren't ambitious. plenty of women are as ambitious as men. what i am saying, and i want to say it unequivocally and unapologetically, that the data is clear that, when it comes to ambition to lead,

sheryl has written a book that is very specific. some words of wisdom there but if you do not have a higher education, if you do not work in the corporate world and working for someone else what is you want to do, you might feel a bit left out by this book. miss sandberg tells us to lean in. i say buy the table. that's what i did. i bought the table and today, i design and sell it. what about the women -- forget about the conference table. but what about the women who can't even get into that conference room, that woman who feels alienated whether she's a single mom struggling to put food on the table. i think there is such a need for entrepreneurialism. piers, when you and i were kids, when young people were getting out of school, they needed to find a job. today, young people need to invent one and what i tell women is do not let your circumstances define you. don't let others' opinion of you destroy or stop you, don't let anyone put you in a box. i'm too odd-shaped. i don't fit in anyone's box and i don't intend to get in one unt

i'm so thrilled sheryl wrote her book.ee dee has done her documentary and done her book. and i like that ruth is out there talking about it and steve supporting us. you know, i think that what women have to do is realize it takes all of us pushing and being that trail blazer, pushing through that ceiling, in order for others to come along on that path. somebody has got to go first. >> let me define as simply as i can what i think the major thrust of this advice is from sheryl sandberg. what does leaning in mean? she talks about it with norah o'donnell on "60 minutes" over on cbs this evening. here's a piece of that. >> they start leaning back. they say oh, i'm busy, i want to have a child one day, i couldn't possibly take on any more. or i'm still learning on my current job. i've never had a man say that stuff to me. >> you're suggesting women aren't ambitious? >> i'm not suggesting women aren't ambitious. plenty of women are as ambitious as men. but i want to say it unequivocally and unapologetically that the data is clea

the other view is, which is sheryl's view, it's our fault.nd there's a polarization here, that's happening, and sheryl is saying, i'm taking the braver point of view. the more -- the more difficult case to make, which is that, let's blame ourselves. she's brave. >> do you think there would have been this backlash, though, if a man had written this book and said this about men? do you think there would have been the same kind of backlash? >> well, a man wouldn't say it about men, because men -- men have the same qualifications for a job as a woman does, which may not be enough to get that promotion. a man will put himself out there. a woman will say, i need to -- i need to be more ready. >> i think it's an incredible argument to be having right now, because i think women are at a turning point. you have 30 years, women have been going, getting more college degrees than men, for 30 years, anderson. women are now getting more phds than men, more medical degrees, more law degrees. we're at this turning point, and yet there are so few women in lea

sheryl sandberg is saying why is that.g the onus on women themselves and what i've heard from girlfriends and other moms, there's a very strong reaction to what she's saying. a very strong reaction. because a lot of people say i can't be sheryl sandberg. she's not trying to say be like me but she has embodied this message. the other thing i find interesting about sheryl sandberg is for someone so incredibly successful is that she's very insecure. she is uncomfortable in some ways with her own power and influence and it goes back to as we put in our "60 minutes" piece from how she was treated both as a young girl and in high school. >> sheryl sandberg says that women in the business world are worried about being liked. >> yes. yes. in fact, mark zuckerberg said to her at some point i think your biggest problem is that you want too much to be liked. >> and nora, you point out that sheryl talks a lot in her book about her vulnerabilities, her insecurities. she's very strategic in doing that. she knows she has to do that to be

but sheryl sandberg comes awfully close. at 43, sandberg who is a director at disney, abc's parent company is the highly respected chief operating office of facebook putting her net worth in the billions. she is happily married with two young children and wants even more. specifically, women to join her in the professional stratosphere. she called it leaning in. gunning for the corner office, not the cubicle. here's elizabeth vargas. >> reporter: sheryl sandberg is one of the most powerful women in the world. at 43 she is the chief operating officer of facebook and a billionaire and you could say she is lonely at the top. >> women have 14% of the top jobs in corporate america for ten years. ten years of no progress. >> are her book "lean in" has ignited a firestorm as a men fes stow for the sex in the city generation looking at the uncomfortable question why are there so few women at the top? >> we are nowhere close to having a share of the leadership roles anywhere in the world. a national retailer printed up onesies, smart

i sit down with sheryl sandberg to talk about this.n the maelstrom of people who think she say villain. some say she is blaming women for their role in this, which is not what the book says. other people heralding what she is doing, creating this movement. i think as an individual, right, a crazy place to be in the middle of a swirl of a debate. front and center, interesting to chat about that. starting next week on monday on "starting point." up next, if you like curly fries, you must be smart. if you like science, you might be dissatisfied with life what your facebook likes say about you. not making up, john berman. [ male announcer ] if she keeps serving up sneezes... [ sneezing ] she may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec®. powerful allergy relief for adults and kids six years and older. zyrtec®. love the air. when the doctor told me that i could smoke for the first week... i'm like...yeah, ok... little did i know that one week later i wasn't smoking. [ male announcer ] along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to

you know the crowd, let's take a last look at sheryl and bring out the new sheryl. >> wow!ybody, you ready? >> turn around, let's go, let's take a look. >> i can't see. >> you turn around, please, sheryl and look right in the mirror. >> oh, my gosh. yeah! >> you like? >> it's different. >> give you a few moments to fall in love with yourself. >> lewis, big change? >> big change. this is -- we softened the hair color. when you have dark hair, once the dark hair starts to go, do go a little softer. you don't have to be a blonde, but you should be a softer brown, a big tip here and keep the makeup very natural. lighter, thin makeup keeps you younger, less is more. >> and miyuki's great haircut. >> ready for spring on this freezing day. this is from london times, this is paired with a skinny belt, she has a little waist, so we put on a bigger belt to emphasize it more. feel free to mix and match belts. >> look at you ladies. >> louis. >>> a couple of students put the irish saying to the test. billion and a half bottles. people have chosen it again and again for over eight years

sheryl is sheryl. i'm mindy. you know, i have a point of view based on my experience.e the college degree. i started as the assistant and worked my way up. my experiences are going to give me a different conversation. and as women, what we can do is listen to all of them and have our own takeaway from all of that on what's relevant to us. it's not a right and it's the not a wrong. but it's about creatinging debate, it's about creating conversation and it's around creating action. >> all right, mindy, great to have you on the program. thanks so much. >> thank you for having me. >> ceo of hsn inc.. they say everything is bigger in texas, right? next we'll find out why all the big tech companies and venture capitalists are headed down to the lone star state. and john paulson might be hitting the road, too. he could avoid a massive tax bill at the same time. ♪ [ indistinct shouting ] [ male announcer ] time and sales data. split-second stats. [ indistinct shouting ] ♪ it's so close to the options floor... [ indistinct shouting, bell dinging ] ...you'll bust your brain box.

sandberg. >> sheryl, i love you.ing women. the facebook c.o.o. her book, it's just out today and so many people are talking about it. >> and they're going to be talking about it for a long time. >>> also ahead, brand-new technology that could help you -- i'm going to read it -- maintain a youthful glow. >> i was wondering if you were going to say that. >> it predicts the skin problems you could have. we'll have more on that coming up. >> we will. >>> and we want to tell you about the diane von furstenberg awards that acknowledge great women, like past winner oprah winfrey. starting this morning, you can vote for their people's voice award for a woman doing inspiring work on behalf of women everywhere. vote now on goodmorningamerica.com on yahoo!. and the award will be given out on april 5th. >> at the u.n. when you go online and read about these women and what they're doing, it's hard to cast your vote. but please do. >>> and we're all going to taste what has lara so excited this morning. elvis french toast. it's fro

. >> one other debate is being sparked by sheryl sandberg, the coo of facebook.k called "lean in: women, work and the will to lead." i guess it's out tomorrow but it's already made the cover of "time" magazine and captures some of the debate, the flavor so far. don't hate her because she's successful. sheryl sandberg will be on "gma" tomorrow, on "60 minutes" tonight talking about her ideas. >> they start leaning back. they say, oh, i'm busy, i want to have a child one day. i couldn't possibly take on any more. i'm still learning on my current job. plenty of women are as ambitious as men, but i am saying, and i want to say it unequivocally and unapologetically, that the data is clear that when it comes to ambition to lead, to be the leader of whatever you're doing, men/boys outnumber girls and women. >> and that is what is setting off people already. some of the headlines and i want to go to you congresswoman shultz. pompom girl for feminism. lean in campaign holds little for most women. forbes, leaning in doesn't fix what's actually broken for working women. she

you talk ann marie slaughter, and sheryl sandberg, it is obviously both. hear about this research, some people will say, wow, do i do that? but also very important is, i think, every woman who paves the path and sets the example and starts setting the expectation that women do and can and should negotiate for things like higher compensation, i think that makes a contribution. >> all right. professor hannah riley bowles, thank you very much. appreciate it as always. >> thanks for having me. >> sure. >>> actress valerie harper, she has cancer. and how she's actually staying positive despite being told that she only has a few months to live. s for real this time. step seven point two one two. verify and lock. command is locked. five seconds. three, two, one. standing by for capture. the most innovative software on the planet... dragon is captured. is connecting today's leading companies to places beyond it. siemens. answers. how we get there is not. we're americans. we work. we plan. ameriprise advisors can help you like they've helped millions of others.

sheryl sandberg says she is most surprised men have not jumped into this conversation.ink that is? >> i really don't know if that is really true that men haven't jumped into this conversation. in reading the book and reading lean in, i think this topic relative to maximizing your own potential in your career and work/family balance is something that men can feel the same way that women can. >> muhammed, what's the impact been on you? >> it has been huge. it has been a great book at the right time. in terms of the right time, we are big believers we are navigating very fluid global economy and that you need a lot of perspectives to understand what's going on and that speaks to the business case for inclusiveness and diversity and along comes sheryl sandberg's book with lots of insights and it has increased awareness tremendously within this company. >> some of all of that is really, john, about likability, right? women aren't holding themselves back and sheryl points it out in the book because they're worried as they will be perceived as non-likeable. where have you seen

and then part one of my interview with sheryl sandberg.ok called "lean in" and it's sparking nationwide conversations. it has some controversy, too. she adds the fact that most of her critics are women. >>> welcome, everybody. starting point this morning, breaking story we're following. can explosive device found on a florida college campus along with a body. we'll tell you what officials say is happening there. >>> and a shawl jet torn to pieces after it smashes into three homes. we'll take you live to the scene. >>> the republican party making public a report saying voters feel the party is unwelcoming and divided. we'll talk to jake tapper about that. >>> also developing, wildfires burning in colorado to south carolina. homes destroyed. roads closed. we'll have the details coming up. >>> and in business, a proposed bailout of cypress is taking a toll right here at home. stock futures are down this morning. are we in for a messy day on wall street? >>> later this hour, part one of my sit-down interview with sheryl sandberg. we'll tell yo

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sheryl sandberg's new book "lean in" which says women can have it all.ean in and be more ambitious and not worry about how people perceive their assertiveness. >> i want every little girl who someone says they're bossy to be told instead you have leadership skills. >> because you were told you were bossy. >> because i was told that. >> joining us "the huffington post" editor and chief might have been told you were bossy at some point. you've published 13 books, run for political office, a masters degree in economics from cambridge university. and you are also a mom with two grown daughters in their 20s now. so let's take a look at the statistics for just a minute, arianna. we're talking the fortune 500 only has 21 female ceos. about 12 women can be counted out as the 190 heads of state. and despite the most number of women in congress, we're talking about less than one in five are women. so what do we need to do? how do we lean in so to speak? >> well, what we need to do is to both have women leaning which means not listening to the voices of doubt in ou

i'm counting on you. [ applause ] >> and so we choose sheryl sandberg.he says they have encouraging signs all over the facebook office and her favorite is, what would you do if you were not afraid? thanks so much for watching. we're always working for you at abcnews.com. "nightline" will be here later at 12:35 a.m. eastern and david muir will be sitting here this weekend. we hope you have a great one. goodnight. owe. >>> tonight a local official admits to gambling away tax dollars. >> one of the bay area's best college basketball programs slapped with sanction autos police return to the streets of santa cruz after the murder two of officers and now, there is a woman investigators are trying to find. >> looking into how effective a pregnancy test can be if it only costs $1. >> good evening, everyone, i'm carolyn johnson. >> there has been a change of venue for police officer memorial service that will happen in santa cruz. city officers are now are pat trailering their streets once again. they have been on two days of mourning after the killings. the two

sheryl sand berg's look, "lean in" the facebook's c.o.o. sort of self-claimed manifesto.on cbs' "60 minutes" yesterday. >> the very blunt truth is that men still run the world. >> what about the women's revolution? >> i think we're stalled. i think we're stalled, and i think we need to acknowledge that we're stalled, so that we can change it. >> are you trying to reig nice the revolution? >> i think so. >> so can sand berg help women furse break through the glass ceiling? alexandra laborenthal, and karen finerman joins us, too. you penned a piece if "fast company" everybody in the office sort of thing, but overall you like this message and woman by woman you think that we can help others break through that ceiling? >> i love the message, and i think frankly she's got the political capital, the financial capital, and the business capital to be the leader of this generation. i think she's right. we have stalled. it's not to say there haven't been advances. karen and i are generally the same youthful age, but when we started, there wouldn't have been a salary kracheck, but t

what we see sheryl sandberg doing right now is a reflection of that.he's not satisfied being ceo of facebook. she wants to do something more. she's looking at her power horizontal. >> she's also got, i think, kind of a tough message. which is that she was speaking to a group of harvard busine businessschool students, and she bluntly said, a third of you women will not be workinging ten years from now, and the rest of you will actually be working for the guy sitting next to you. that's a pretty startling message for you to hear. why is it that women, even in the most elite women, who have advanced degrees from some of the most prestigious schools in this country, have chosen to drop out of the workforce and are not interested in leadership positions. and that's a really interesting thing to think about, i think. >> yeah. >> it's a good discussion to have. norah, fascinating piece. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> patty, thank you very much. >> thank you, anderson. >> i want to know what you think on twitter right no now, @andersoncooper. >>> here i

of course, the title of sheryl sandberg's new book.ra bush talked to erin burnett. >> i have two girls, who have been leaning in since the day they were born, i think. they're both very interested in the outside world, and in life outside of themselves. when you go through those teenage years, teenagers are usually very self-conscious and my advice always to teenagers and young people is to move outside of yourself, by looking at other people, by looking at ways you can use your own talents. >> you can watch all of erin's interview with former first lady laura bush, tonight, 7:00 eastern, on erin burnett out front 7:00. >>> one of the hottest new companies out there maybe you know the name, heard of task rabbit? guess what, founded by a woman. a very young woman, might i add. here is cnn's dan simon. >> so i'm thinking if we can have trust plus efficiency as like an equation or something -- >> reporter: she's been compared to mark zuckerberg, smart, entrepreneurial and driven. at 32 years old, leah buskey is the founder and ceo of what

and i want to go further and say sheryl sandberg is a visionary. she's trying to start a national conversation and a movement where we can take the gloves off and actually have real conversations about real people's lives. and the conflict that many of us, not just women, but men, too, have with office and family. and we know in the american workplace the balance is wrong for men and women. and we know that there are many, many more women now at universities and in higher education. and yet that figure is not reflected in the board rooms. and furthermore, we know empirically all the research shows that businesses do better when they have senior management that reflects the population at large. so when they have minorities and women represented in full. >> critics say sandberg's book is full of contradictions. she says don't be afraid to speak up, yet she was coached on speaking up too much. critics say they seems to want it both ways. >> there has been a lot of cartoon criticism of her book because that's the easy way to discuss what is actually a

sheryl sandberg is telling women it's okay to really know what you want.ate for that. we're not only talking about executives here, we're talking about if you want to be a movie star, a stay at home mom. find the thing that means having it all to you, and lean in, embrace it. stuart: she's saying more, she's saying take responsibility, take more responsibilities in different areas, move out, spread your power, acquire power. she's saying do that, even if you're criticized for doing it, but i think the point you want to -- you're smiling, you know what's coming. >> yes. stuart: you say that women are their own worst enemies because women join in the criticism of females. >> absolutely, gender bias exists, it's very real and men are not to blame, women are just as guilty as men. what's worse, it's largely unconscious, we don't know we're doing it. and reading my favorite study from harvard. a class was given a story, half read about heidi, half read about howard. howard was viewed as a collegial guy, everybody wants to work with howard. heidi was viewed as s

a lot of what sheryl wrote about, you wrote about a year ago. it was fascinating.don't wait to get married. don't wait to have kids because if you do, you're going to wake up 40 and your job is going to let you down. >> if it's something you want in life. you don't -- i don't think you take getting a job more seriously than looking for a family and looking for that other point of feminine life when is another conversation. to your story and now to katty kay, i think it's interesting because we do have the book that i wrote but also the book that sheryl wrote called "lean in." you're supposed to say i need this in order to be able to be with my children for few months and then i need -- and i actually venture to believe that in some companies, you can. you just have to. i think women, as sheryl points out, are rhett sint to actually say what they need because they feel guilty or bad or perhaps maybe they won't be seen as productive, katty. >> we wrote this when we tried to redefine the workplace. we came to the conclusion that actually it's the systems that work tha

of course, sheryl sandberg, hugely successful.a role model by some because they say that she can have it all because she's got so much money, but you drill down a lot deeper in her new book. >> so -- >> focussing on this whole issue. >> seeing the reaction to -- >> i know. >> the story and belinda, our writer, did the first interview she's done about this book. it isn't even out yet, and, yet, it has become such a target. i do have to wonder, you know -- i don't remember seeing that kind of reaction which jack welch writes about leadership or lee iacocca. >> exactly. >> somehow when a successful woman, powerful woman writes about things that she would like to see other women do to help them succeed, you know, starting with the point that there are so few women make it into the corner office, into congress, into the senate, into leadership roles and why is that. somehow the very fact of her offering this advice is treated as being somehow presumptive with us, which i found very striking a response already. >> and in "lean in" her b

. >> o'donnell: sheryl sandberg runs the business side of the social media giant facebook.st powerful women in the world, and she has just written a book about women in the work force. it may be the most debated work published all year. >> i am not saying that everyone has the resources or opportunities i have. but i am saying we need to help women own the power they have, learn how to negotiate for raises, get the pay they deserve. >> o'donnell: you know, sheryl people are going to say, "oh she's got a charmed life, she went to harvard, she's a billionaire, and she's telling me what i should do." >> logan: when pope benedict xvi came to the sagrada famÍlia two years ago, he consecrated the church as a basilica. not since 1883, when it was first envisioned by anthony

no matter what we are debating, the real winner moneywise is sheryl sandberg. gerri: i have to say that she is something of role model. she is really exposing herself here and putting herself out there. taking a lot of heat for it. i admire that. moving on to something political for a little bit of fun here, house republicans and the president meeting. are we getting anywhere on the budget? >> i hope that we are. it took an entire first term were president was going to actually make some effort to sort of compromise or to connect with the other side. i think that he realizes at this point it is essential. i'm worried that we are going to see very little accomplished despite his best efforts. gerri: marjorie, what do you say? >> the administration lately been waiting for the second term and right now, i think what is tragic is you have a complacent public. this is been going on for so long, i don't think people are even watch anymore and they are giving up on congress being productive. gerri: judy, how do you see this playing out? i watch this every single day.

reporting live in san francisco, i'm sheryl herd, nbc bay area news. >> thank you, sheryl. we have full coverage of the supreme court's debate on ours website, nbcbayarea.com. you can listen to all the audio from today's arguments and read more of what it could mean for the future of same-sex marriage in california and nationwide. >>> we are following developing news out of morgan hill where an hour's long standoff between police and an armed man as just ended. this is a live look at the scene where everything just unfolded. this is video just into the newsroom of the suspect being arrested after surrendering peacefully. police say he's a wanted parolee from the san diego area. officers say the 29-year-old barricaded himself in a room when police knocked on his door to ask about a car. it reportedly had two license plates stolen from san jose cars and had stolen goods inside as well. a woman was also locked inside the room. police say she was given a chance to leave and she declined. the man told police he was armed and did not care if he died. the s.w.a.t. team was called

angela, sheryl sandberg says women have a tendency to internalize all the negative messages and startnate against themselves by not reaching out for opportunities. but is it really fair to suggest women, themselves, are to blame when you have rampant workplace discrimination and appalling fact the woman earns 77 cents for every $1 a man makes? that has nothing to do with women, does it? >> martin, it has a lot to do with equal opportunity or the lack thereof in this country. i think that when you just take a look at what's before the supreme court right now with the fisher case, and university of texas and the fact that affirmative action programs are absolutely on the line as being unconstitutional now. that is an open door that will be closed to students of color. so when you're talking about not only unequal earning, earning potential of women, or the fact that with hillary clinton in the 2008 election, she talked about shattering the glass ceiling. there is certainly an opportunity issue here, and part of it is not, or doesn't have anything to do with women or their ability or the

this woman position is a big deal, thanks to sheryl sandberg from facebook and this book. this character, this woman who really is a very empowering human being. >> it was not my idea, so i cannot take a lot of responsibility for it, but at -- same time, i think that's that matt knew, and perhaps my own naivety brought something to peggy in the beginning, that kind of feeling that she did not know that she was going to end up there, and maybe that is what he wanted in the grand scheme. but for me, it is a great story to tell. not only is it such an important story, but it is so interesting, and what i loved about peggy's unique brand, i feel that is how most women feel they are feminists. she did not know the term "glass ceiling." she just kept bumping her head up against it until it broke. that is what women actually did. there are those that were out there burning their bras, and then there were those out there making big, global stands, and then there are people out there like peggy that are, "i am amazing at what i do. i should be given a chance to do it, just like you

we all can't be sheryl sandberg.lready have some means, but there are things relevant for women with more modest means. part of what she's doing is it's supposed to go across all income groups. basically women limit themselves in whatever group they're in. doesn't have anything to do with income. >> if these groups actually get other women to support other women, i think shell actually accomplished what she set out to do. >> but that's the question. >> frankly, on the question of balance, i tend to think it's a crock. i am successful and i don't believe that you can have this. i think you have to choose -- >> men will do the laundry? >> my husband, as you know, does the laundry, and i'm grateful for that. >> let me ask you this, though, and again, with mika, what she'll always tell people, what she was saying is i always try to keep things in balance, and you know what, one day everything will be in balance and the next day i'll think i'm the worst mom in the world and the worst this and the worst that. and then two

>> when i first heard of the experiment, i didn't believe sheryl.d looked at the research myself. it suggests a bit of progress, but not much. we know there's not enough progress. there's not enough women in board rooms and senior managerment. the crazy thing is all the research shows a business will run better and be more successful if you have a senior executive group that reflects the population. >> we interviewed heidi, the female executive who was part of the original study and also this new study. here is what she said. >> i think there definitely has been progress for women in leadership positions. i see it here with the number of women with senior positions at the technology companies and women rising through the ranks. the thing that is disturbing is at the top, i feel there is a lot of work to be done. i mean, if you take me as an example, i'm on six boards, two public and four private. i'm the only woman. we have a lot of work to be done. >> where do you think the most work is to be done? >> in helping women go up the corporate ladder. i

sheryl sandberg, have you had a chance to read it yet?ovely. i've read some excerpts. >> you're not a woman, so i don't care what you think. >> he's been chiming in all morning, you may care. maybe we'll all have a discussion. >> thank you. 42 minutes after the hour right now. actress valerie harper, best known for her days on the hit show "rhoda" and "the mary tyler moore show." she has been diagnosed with a rare former cancer. she's talking about it with some truly inspiring words. here to tell us more about the condition is senior medical correspondent elizabeth cohen. this is a rare form of cancer. >> it is. and it's not what we usually think of when we think of cancer that affects the brain. usually we think of a tumor. this is not a tumor. this is loose cells in her spinal fluid and that affects the men ink es and that's basically the covering over the brain. so you can see it there, the meninges sort of that blue and green and beige layers there, and inside is the brain. so from what we now it's not actually in her brain, but still

is sheryl sandberg on to something?ans, president of working mother media. great of you both to join us here. >> thank you for having us. >> karla, do you women are our own worst enemy? basically it's our fault for not being ambitious or aggressive or confident enough in the workplace or are there real barriers holding us back? >> i don't think we're our own worst enemies. at the end of the day i think women certainly have the qualifications. they have the experience. if there's any place we should invest more it should frankly be in relationships. it's relationships that make the difference at the end of the day. especially the sponsored relation with respect to moving up within any organization. >> that's up to us. the company is not going to come to you and sign you a sponsor. you have to build a relationship with someone who can help guide you through an organization, you mean? >> i feel strongly there's a difference between the mentor and sponsor. the mentor is a person you can tell the good, bad and ugly to. this

they are still in the pc business. >> sheryl sandberg is on "usa today".factor it in when looking at stock? >> i don't factor it is. i care about the quality and the depth of the management team. as far as what she does communicating her thoughts to the public in any venue, that really doesn't factor into my analysis for facebook. >> paul meeks, thank you for joining us this morning. >> thank you. >>> when we come back, don't start your trading week without jim cramer's stock to watch. we'll check in with jim right after this. i know what you're thinking... transit fares! as in the 37 billion transit fares we help collect each year. no? oh, right. you're thinking of the 1.6 million daily customer care interactions xerox handles. or the 900 million health insurance claims we process. so, it's no surprise to you that companies depend on today's xerox for services that simplify how work gets done. which is...pretty much what we've always stood for. with xerox, you're ready for real business. >>> >>> let's go down to the new york stock exchange. jim cramer joi

. >> a lot of people are talking about sheryl sandberg's book called "lean in." lot of issues that she brings up in her book i brought up in my book a few years ago called "knowing your value" and it's about how women undermine themselves and each other in the process of trying to grow in the workplace and become financially equitable to their male counterparts and i look at exactly what we do that causes perhaps problems or creates stumbling blocks along the way and sheryl touches on that as well. women care more about being friends than commanding respect. that women tend to apologize for themselves and they feel so lucky to be there and it talks about how you need to really communicate effectively. so what i like about "lean in" is that all women should come to work and "lean in" but then they need to take it to the next step. i think we still need to do that but we've come a long way. >> i have two daughters. dominique says the difference in your book and others, including "lean in,"s with thsays don't become accommodating to it. >> that's a key thing. sheryl

i appreciate what sheryl sandberg is doing. think she is in a vacuum but it is on women but it is also on man and is also on the whole power structure. it is about having fair maternity leave and about having equal pay power, not just about volunteering for this position. i know many women in the d.c. bar, it is run by women. there are a lot of great and fabulous women in the maryland and virginia state bar. the fact of the matter is, who is at the head of those big law firms? it is man. -- men. guest: obviously, there is a tremendous opportunities for women in this country. the whole work of sheryl sandberg's book is to take advantages of those opportunities. women look on average for as a person of equal pay, the is if women to not ask and women just don't and it is because women are perceived more negatively when they are asking for themselves. we also see that women are less willing to state that they have high ambitions for themselves for the future when they are young. there is a broader self- deprecating approach that ma

>> we met with sheryl early on and this is something she's incredibly passionate about.nal case, she's incredibly intelligent and competent person who has risen to the top of the field where you don't see a lot of women, let alone leadership positions. she's passionate about advising women at the beginnings of their careers to be ambitious, be active and stay in. what she sees and i think we all know this, more women attend college than men. plenty of women are moving forward. there's an ambition gap and there are structural and institutional barriers to women we're aware of. her focus in this conversation is how have women internalized some of the barriers and are they sometimes holding themselves become a. >> "the sisters are doing it to themselves, for a variety of reasons they're not aiming high enough, they're underestimating their abilities, they're doing too much housework and child care, they're compromising their career goals for partners and children even when such partners and children do not yet exist. we hold ourselves back in ways both big and small by lack