women with english, they are going into these big tech firms, sheryl sambergs, and of ibm and microsofte the exception. >> right but they are influencing this. john: who has mic. >> you said title 9 you felt was necessary beyond social changes, if not for that we would still be in stone ages. i was wondering how you explain a new sport mixed martial arts and caged fighting there are already females without about law that requires them to do that. you know how did this come about without a basics change. >> title 9 was passed in 1972, it is over 40 years now it has impacted social beliefs. and so now -- john: the law changed people's attitudes? >> it opened the doors for women to have an opportunity. >> is it still necessary. >> get rid of it. >> absolutely not, because, even so the national women's law center estimates ast least 70% of colleges and universities are still not in compliance with title ix . john: the boys want to play sports, if i play football i know it will happen, if i throw it to girls, okay. john: we're out of time, thank you, leonard, shawn, and sabrina, coming up, w