sheryl sandberg is on the call just now illustrating how they are bringing ads to messaging.k shares continuing to fall, now down 4% in after-hours trading. we will stay on the headlines. this is bloomberg. ♪ selina: this is "bloomberg technology." back to our top story. facebook's underwhelming third quarter earnings. sheryl sandberg talking about a tool turning horizontal ads to vertical ads so they can work in instagram stories. earlier mark zuckerberg earlier spoke about the competition. >> our biggest competitor by far is imessage. in importing countries like the u.s. where the iphone is strong, apple bundles imessage as the default texting app and it is still ahead. in countries where there's more competition between ios and android, like much of europe, people tend to prefer our services. selina: back with us is david kirkpatrick. of bloomberg technology. we heard zuckerberg talking about competitors, youtube, it seems unprecedented to talk about competitors during the earnings call. what is your take on that? >> very rare for executives to talk about competitors. one

sheryl sandberg spoke to the staff about sexual harassment.and up for judge kavanaugh even if you are a personal friend for a long time, think they want to say you must be supportive of sexual harassment. this is the face of the silicon valley and the left of this country take the me too movement and turning it into a political tool. charles: suber and other fast-growing tech companies. i don't know sandberg has been effective so far. these conservative complaints about the way they are treated by these search engines, they must have validity to them. >> sheryl sandberg had emails coming out showing she was providing data from facebook to hillary clinton. having her come in and massage those fears doesn't help out conservative users of the platform. people that work for these big tech companies are intolerant for people who disagree with them. at google you saw executives crying when hillary clinton lost the election and no one seemed to have a concern about that. they expressed a desire to get rid of hate speech. is supporting judge kavanaugh

emily: the female board members on the facebook board are sheryl sandberg and sue desmond, who we areng to speak with later in the show. as you look through the company rosters, what other companies are concerning? >> i think any company that is a publicly traded company in california, private as well, that don't have representation for women on their boards is concerning. it is a difficult argument to make that the best talent is represented in a room where 50% of the population isn't represented. emily: have you gotten a lot of activity as a result? >> coming out of the summer, we see an increase of about 30% in search volume. this year we've seen 70% increase. emily: what kind of candidates are you offering, and are they being received well? there are women out there, but oftentimes these companies say they are not good enough or they don't meet the standard. >> which is very surprising. we don't hear that very often. 80% of our platform is either ceo, executive, or a board member. these women are qualified. the trick is finding the right experience to match what the searcher is lo

and sheryl sandberg were also targeted.: the mention of an insider is intriguing. thanks so much, sarah and mark. the fbi has a busy week this week. coming up, competition to be the first 5g network has heated up. verizon may be a step ahead of the others. that is next. this is bloomberg. ♪ ♪ ♪ emily: the race to 5g has begun and verizon is off to a head start. today the phone carrier announced the beginning of what it is calling the world's first 5g network with in-home service. they are offering three months of the service to residents in houston, indianapolis, l.a. and sacramento, with plans to expand to a mobile 5g network in 2019. bloomberg's caroline hyde set down with the ceo to talk about the launch and the future of 5g. there are many use cases. fiber intohaving their home, we have wireless. it is a revolution what they can do with wireless. we announced two weeks ago that you can order it, and today we will make the first customers in the world get 5g. it is just an exciting time for us. >> why is it revolutionary

alistair: i think the comments from sheryl sandberg show she is getting into the nitty-gritty of howre going to show up in what'sapp. we're not sure exactly how to monetize in general, but we knew focusing on it, she's the operations person and the advertising expert. that shows they are really thinking about it and moving along, but again, there's still a question mark about how much money they're going to make. i want to listen to what zuckerberg said about security on the call. >> is worth noting that one of the main reasons people prefer our services because of its stronger record on privacy. , does nots encrypted store your messages, doesn't store the keys to your messages in china or anywhere else. this is important because if our systems cannot see your messages, that means that governments and bad actors won't be able to access them through us, either. selina: we just heard zuckerberg touting the privacy concerns on whatsapp. all that mps investors at -- of these investors at all? david: probably not. it seems to be a sort of backhanded criticism of apple for allowing the chi

to make the world more open and connected. >> the business model we see today was created by sheryl sandberghe team she built at facebk, many of whom had been with her at google. >> arrator: publicly, sandberg and zuckerberg had been downplaying the extent of the personal data facebook was collecting, and emphasizing users' privacy. >> we are focused on privacy. we care the most about privacy. our business model is by far the most privacy-fendly to consumers. >> that's our mission, all right? i mean, we have to do that thcause if people feel lik don't have control over how they're sharing things, then we're failing them. >> it really is the point that t the onngs facebook knows about you are things you've done and told us. ut >> narrator:nternally, sandberg would soon lead facebook in a very different direction.re >> tas a meeting, i think it was in march of 2012, in which, you know, it was everyone who built stuff side ads, myself among them. and, you know, she basically recited the reality, which is, revenue was flattening. it wasn't slow, it wasn't declining, but it wasn't gwing nearly as

sheryl sandberg criticized him for attending the hearing. talked to joel about why i think it was a mistake for him to attend, given his role in the company. she also says she respects his right to associate with who he wants to outside the office. liz: what do you think about the issue that joel capling has no right to associate with who wants to outside the office. >> you have joel kaplan going because he's a friend. and now's a heretic and they want to figuratively burn him at the stake. it isn't just about the women's issue. if you look at other statements that have been made. it's about the fact that he violated the the corporate culture or left-wing ideology facebook seems to have. liz: facebook's joel kaplan admitting he made a mistake attending the hearing in what is being described as an intense facebook meeting. what is your take now that joel kaplan is apologizing. >> this is what the old soviet union used to do. we'll bring you in, force you to confess your crime. they will ostracize you, for us out, embarrass you, make life for

former member of the liberal democrats party report to sheryl sandberg. will face many challenges.acebook continues to deal with scandals, including so-called fake news, privacy and election >>> there are hopes that topical gel can treat breast cancer. active ingredient been in a drug for decades. new clinical this is a saturday with thithe best wifi experiencey. and your shows streaming wherever you go. and with savings on wireless, this is a saturday you can share with the whole family. this is how xfinity makes life... simple. easy. awesome. get started with xfinity internet and tv for just $39.99 a month for 12 months when you include xfinity mobile. click, call or visit a store today. >>> tesla's ceo elon musk announced a less expensive version of model three. says the price will drop to $34,000 after tax breaks and gas savings into account. compared to $49,000 for previous model threes. battery will power the car about 260 miles on a single charge. battery range plays a big role in the price of the cars. teslas cost more, $54,000. >>> all heard that exercising can make you he

then let sheryl sandberg grab him around the neck and bring him under control. terrible. >> it's sad you can't have a personal opinion without being attacked for having that opinion. we stand with brett kavanaugh. i cry with him, not her. i'm so happy they are confirming him. shame on the left for taking the #metoo movement and politicizing it and using it as a weapon against somebody and character aas state inned them. that is wrong. that right there is going to galvanize and motivate republicans to go to the polls and vote. lou: the president's approval rating in the daily rasmussen tracking poll moving to 51% from 47% i believe it was earlier. >> you also see democrats switching now. they say they are not going to vote for democrats any more after what they have seen. they can relate to that how either their brother, father, house with us accused of doing something for something they said they did not do. so they see what's going on here. and it seems familiar. and because of that they are like no we are voting republican. lou: any american who doesn't believ

mark zuckerberg and sheryl sandberg were also targeted. the mention of an insider is intriguing.ark. so much, sarah and the fbi has a busy week this week. coming up, competition to be the first five g network has heated up. verizon may be a step ahead of the others. ♪ has begun race to 5g and verizon is off to a head start. they announced what they call the world's first commercial 5 g network. they are offering three months of the service to residents in houston, indianapolis, l.a. and sacramento, with plans to expand in 2019.le 5g network caroline sat down with the ceo to talk about the future of 5g. casee first use [indiscernible] it is a revolution, what you can do with wireless. we announced two weeks ago that you can order it and today, we will make the first come -- the the world gets in 5g. >> why is it revolutionary? to many, the internet of things and the application of 5g doesn't become a reality until five -- until 2019. >> there will be a lot of enterprise solutions. of course, as consumers we will get smartphones in 2019, which will be a new experience. there are so

clegg will report to facebook c-o-o sheryl sandberg. (justine)"music for 4 seconds." today, almost 2-thousand people came together to join the "walk to end alzheimer's" in walnut creek. the event helps raise awareness and money for alzheimer's care, support and research. our grant lodes was the m-c of the event. standing with him, is stacey harmon. she was diagonised with the disease at 40-years old. grant tells me.. it was very emotional when the mother of two .. joined him on stage. and shared how she struggles with things that used to be easy. but stays positive that one day there will be an end to alzheimers. the event raised... 560-thousand dollars today. we have a link on kron4.com ... if you want to donate. (jrs)coming up: as thousands of central american migrants are making their way to the us- mexico border... we hear from one now bay area woman who reflects on her immigration journey from mexico. (justine)plus: first fridays in oakland has been cancelled. why organizers say safety is a major concern that they are taking seriously. (mabrisa)a look at your for

sheryl sandberg did not get the stamp of approval, we support people doing what they want in their personalthis was by no means a straightforward case, i had a conversation how she didn't think this was the right call. a lot of folks on social media are saying this is the guy's life, he should be able to do what he wants. this twitter user says how about supporting his friend he has known for years? another twitter user said had zuckerberg attended they would have been praised, always a double standard. leslie linda said it is called freedom. let the man choose what he wants to do in his personal time. working for a liberal company taking the conservative position supporting his longtime friend, in a strange position. >> the double standard is concerning all of this, big double standard. >> they are having a big meeting, zuckerberg will be there, a company townhall. heather: let us know what happens. the time is 26 minutes after the top of the hour, democrats calling the fbi reported sham. how can 7 investigations not be enough to satisfy them? our political panel is on deck to debate that.

zuckerberg whork you needed to have a sheryl sandberg, grown-up in the room.heryl sandberg and how much he helped mark zuckerberg and he has two theories coming either evolve or you need to replace the people. you need new people can be admirals rather than pirates. alix: turning back to the markets, looking at small cap signals, because small-cap stocks genetically underperformed and some major asset manager saying the reason -- the reason outside losses is a possible sign of an upcoming deeper market correction. , francis the man gannon. good to see you. : the russell 2000 as a benchmark for small caps even with a 9% correction is a risky index. we've been talking about normalizing environment based on higher rates and higher volatility and lower returns. one of the more testing things today is that as rates back to my view that as a positive thing. talking about tesla is a great example. i know it's been a small-cap company but think about the frustration shareholders had the summer when they were actually asking questions on a conference call about earning

smarting for not sending someone to testify in weeks ago when sheryl sandberg and jack dorsey went to testify. he is scheduled to testify before congress at some point in the coming weeks. how do you expect lawmakers will take? to this gerrit: lawmakers will jump on this like every other issues tech companies have had over the past couple of years. google has gotten a lot of attention in the last couple of months. before that, although they had faced criticism, they had skated above the worst of it. that had been reserved for facebook and twitter, but they are at the center of it. the president tweeted a month and a half ago that google was only showing negative news about his presidency. he was very upset about that. conservative politicians have said google has a liberal bias. they are suppressing liberal opinions on youtube and they want that to change. there is no evidence this is happening. google continues to push back at it but it doesn't seem to be going away. google will continue to be a topic that politicians like to talk about. as we head into the midterms, on the republica

zuckerberg and sheryl sandberg didn't really talk to the company or talk to those outside of the companyuick enough. we started to get concerns about privacy. quarter, we saw the had another concern in terms of hacking in the system. do we think the leadership has learned enough? david: not enough. i'm disappointed in the leadership of facebook. in theirpointed unwillingness to engage in public and critics on these issues. they won't come out and talk about it anywhere. i do not think they have shown they really have the ideas they need and the advice they need, and innovation they need to address some of the very serious problems that their services are engendering. i talked to a senior business person today who said -- and i had never heard this phrase before, social media has failed. this is somebody who is a major executive in a global company who is in this business and feels social media has failed. nobody has been willing to talk like that before. it probably is a little premature, but it is the kind of thing we may have to start asking ourselves. caroline: because it is so polari

aqueous reports mark zuckerberg and coo sheryl sandberg said kaplan made a mistake appearing at that hearing. he was once a senior advisor to george w. bush. brett cavanagh was the staff secretary. kaplan sense he's friends with brett kavanaugh for years, this image of a senior facebook executive sitting behind brett cavanagh surrounded by) and family, he testified allegations he assaulted christine blasey-ford angered facebook. he apologize for the appearance recognizing this moment is a deeply painful one. the times reports facebook employees flooded into forms with comments about his appearance at the hearing. facebook has been involved in several controversies, russians using the blackboard to swing voters in the election, how it handles personal information, significant data breach, charges it suppresses conservative news, and allocation the company denies. heather: shannon: is the secretary on his way to north korea? >> he is on his way. he will be meeting with heather:. mike pompeo said the mission of this trip is to make sure we understand what each side is trying to achieve.

reporter: as we talk with the sheryl sandbergs and mark zuckerbergs of this world, what are the discussions get in front of this, instead of the appearance that you are being dragged kicking and screaming? how do you address the grand challenge? do? could they have could you say that this is what you could do, this is to get us moving in the right direction? >> i think the key thing is to transparent and discursive about the things you are investing about. by the way, they are. they are investing in election integrity and data security. not just to do it, but to show people you are doing it. you say, i hear what your worries are, and we are working on them. by the way, it may take a few iterations, but we care about it and we are investing in it, and then to be talking about that. i think they are on the path to exactly those conversations. emily: linkedin cofounder reid hoffman with bloomberg's david westin. you can catch their full interview on the next episode of "bloomberg big decisions," november 7 here that does it for this edition of "bloomberg technology." tomorrow, do not miss our

reporter: facebook expected to hold a town hall meeting today with mark zuckerberg and sheryl sandberger hundreds of facebook employees expressed anger over joel kaplan's attendance at the brett kavanaugh testimony last week. he is the faceless head of global policy. you see him in the background circled for you. you may recognize him in the background behind mark zuckerberg during his testimony to congress in april earlier this year. facebook employees think kaplan's attendance not only represented support for kavanaugh but may have also represented facebook's endorsement for kavanaugh as well and this has ignited debate inside facebook on numerous issues such as the #metoo movement and trump era politics. kaplan has written an apology on the company's internal forum saying i want to apologize, i recognize this moment is a deeply painful one internally and externally. kaplan has been a friend of judge kavanaugh for 20 years, both were in each other's wedding parties. initially kaplan said this was a personal matter and took a personal day off. the ceo and founder mark zuckerberg answe

about, and i think there is a real opportunity and i would appoint the most recent hearing with sheryl sandbergrom facebook and the google folks didn't show up, but our committee nobody went wacky saying the algorithms were biased. whatever views you had. it will make sure that you keep looking. i think the knowledge level is rising and there's nothing conservative. everybody here in this room has more base knowledge on how these technologies work and how these companies operate. >> a lot of the conversations around russia, russia isn't the actor. last spring in this very room we had the campaign manager and mitt romney's campaign manager running an initiative on the defending of digital democracy and its interesting pairing the two of them. the 2012 campaign i was also hacked by chinese and they joked the only thing they went looking for they were happy someone was reading to talk about the activity in this space right now they say the exact quote was russia meddling pales in comparison do you agree with that? >> russia has muddled in our political system, and they don't favor democrats versus

don't understand the logic there, but he could give up the ceo role pretty easily, give it to sheryl sandberg chief technology officer like bill gates or larry ellison did. would that make investors happy? >> people that are calling for him to be out makeup a small percentage of holder base, less than 1%. he controls the company. he effectively controls 60% of the vote, he is founder, chairman, and ceo. we don't see that changing don't necessarily think that's the best thing for the company so unless he goes rogue like elon musk has, which we don't see for zuckerberg, don't think that he is going anywhere, you know >> couple of interesting levels this morning snap is back below seven and twitter is trying to close above 30 for the first time in a month. 29.98. what do you think about those two names? >> twitter is recovering snap is still losing, so it is clear that we see twitter is on a road to recovery you look at the back half of the year, they have fairly easy comps. recovery of twitter has happened in the international markets, and they said that they're going to keep prices low to get

charlie: i was thinking of someone like sheryl sandberg or eric schmidt from google but if elon has to be the top dog all the time people like that will not take the job. liz: i think he will be relieved to have some removed from his shoulders. charlie: i don't know about that i'm just saying that this, if they don't pick an independent directors and a real independent chairman, as an investor you've got to be weary about this. liz: that's any company. they've got to have independent voices on board and this is a problem with all sorts of companies not just tesla. charlie: it's a bigger problem with tesla and i'll tell you why we went through corporate governance hell, as everything is hell to elon musk by the way, you know? what did i say? liz: he's a passionate guy. charlie: everything is hell but no offense, build a car and you shut up, all right? i'm serious and you make money or you don't. what's that? we're getting from marco here. [laughter] liz: the peanut gallery here. charlie: i think it's even more of an issue here. this is a company that if you're an investor you got to wan

are fairly significant guys, and people that and, you know, i don't think she will take it but sheryl sandberg's be in the mix she's very good at her job, and i'm sure there will be some push for a woman, you know, to have at least consider some women. those are names i hear. the types wrote about james murdock. they threw him -- liz: he sits on the board. charlie: he is one of the top executives here at 21st century fox. liz: do i know? charlie: as you know. we should point out that we put calls into 21st century fox and he had no comment. the times reporting that i've not been able to independently verify that just so you know so that's where we are. it's two stories here for you the investor and tesla. pay close attention. the numbers, how they meet, profitability. do they meet it real or do they meet it through gimmicks? if they meet it real that stock goes way up. if they meet it through gimmicks not too impressed and second corporate governance who will watch over, will they have the power to tell him to stop and to focus on producing cars, not on tweeting about thailand cave drivers and s

. >> cara, do you feel like, there has been so much attention on this, and sheryl sandberg the others posting on facebook photos of war room that facebook has for their election integrity unit. do they have their hands around this problem? >> it's a really nice pr move to do that. they brought in all kinds of journalists if you saw 100 articles about the war room. it's just a room full of computers. >> with screens there are monitors as well. >> yes, exactly. and maybe some keyboards. you know, i think the thing is, they want to show that they're committed to stopping this. but the fact is the bots have run wild all the time, on twitter, facebook, everywhere it can go. i think what's really interesting to think about is they're sort of bots for hire. during the roseanne thing, a lot of things were bots that started the problem and humans interact with it. bots get everything started and humans like you were talking to bots. >> i don't talk to them. i have a no bot policy. >> a no bot policy. but i think the issue is they want to start to sow discord. in the rosen thing there are bots

that's according to axios who reports facebook ceo mark sumer berg and sheryl sandberg said kaplan maden the hearing. kaplan was a senior visor to george w. bush. kavanaugh was president bush's staff secretary. kaplan says he's been friends with kavanaugh for years and this image of a senior facebook executive sitting behind kavanaugh surrounded by close friends and family as kavanaugh testified about allegations he assaulted christine blasey ford in high school, angered many. kaplan apologized for the appearance recognizing this moment is a deeply painful one. the times reports facebook employees flooded internal forums with comments about kaplan's appearance at the hearing. many critical. facebook has been involved in several controversies, russians using the mat form to persuade voters in 20916 election, how it handles personal information, significant data breach, and charges it suppresses conservative news. that's an allegation the company denies. >> shannon: while we have you here, you cover the state department for us. and the secretary of state now on his way to north korea, the

. >> narrator: tessa lyons was chief of staff to facebook's number two, sheryl sandberg, and is now ine of fighting misinformation. she is one of five current officials facebook put forward to answer questions. >> jacoby: was there any kinde, of sense of, loh, my goodness, facebook is getting polluted with misinformation-- someone should do something about this"? >> there certainly was, and there were people who were thinking about it. what i a real awareness of, internally or externally, was the scope of the oblem and the, the right course of action. >> jacoby: how could it surprising that, if you're becoming the world's information source, that the may be a problem with misinformation? >> there was certainly awarenese that tould be problems related to news or quality of news. and i think we allecognized afterwards that of all of the threats that we were considering, we focused a lot threats that weren't misinformation and underinvested in this one. ♪ >> narrator: but there was another problem that was going unattended on facebook beyond minformation. >> one of the big factors that em

mark zuckerberg and sheryl sandberg will lead today's all hands meeting at the company. >>> you think elon musk would have learned to tweet more carefully but he's been making fun of the securities and exchange commission online. as part of the settlement with the sec, musk agreed to step down as tesla's chairman. now he's mocking that same organization. i talked to a silicon valley, one of their most serious leaders about musk's behavior, former yahoo! chairman maynard webb says ceo's have to remember you have to behave like a ceo every hour of every day. >> we learned early in my career once you're a leader there is a different standard. >> yes. >> but in today's world that's 24/7, by anybody walking by you, anywhere. there used to be places you could relax, whether that was at a ball game or anywhere else. >> maynard and i sat down for a conversation about leadership this morning right after "meet the press" sunday. he's also on the board at sales sports. he's at yahoo! and yahoo! never works out, right? we can't really call that a success. meanwhile sales force builds the second t

mark zuckerberg and sheryl sandberg will lead today's all hands meeting at facebook. >>> you think elonk would have learned not to tweet so crazeily. he's making fun of the securities and exchange commission online. he's already in trouble with the sec and now mocking the same organization. i talked to a silicon valley, one of their most serious leaders about musk's behavior, may yard webb says ceos have to remember you have to behave like a ceo every hour of every day. >> we learned early in my career once you're a leader there is a different standard. >> yes. >> but in today's world, that's 24/7, by anybody walking by you, anywhere. there used to be places you could relax, whether that was at a ball game or anywhere else. >> maynard and i will sit down and talk about leadership this sunday on "press" after "meet the press" sunday at 9:00 a.m. maynard was chairman of the board at yahoo! helped hire marissa mayer. he has a lot of great advice for all of us. >> the long history of it, not just the now, now, now. >> exactly. >> thank you very much. >>> if you're feeling lucky, how about p

sheryl sandberg says his appearance was a mistake. there will be a townhall for facebook employees to discuss the issue. do you think the issue might be free speech? i doubt it. but that is politics today. intimidation, character assassination, confrontation on display at 9:30. the senate a symbol, 10:30 a vote to wrap up parliamentary maneuvering and then begins 30 hours of debate leading to the final vote saturday afternoon. senator grassley told fox news at this point he does not know how the senate will vote. we do know how many jobs were created last month was i call it disappointing, 134,000. there's a lot of comment the bad weather depressed the number. the and employment rate, 3.7%, lower since december 1969, wages up to.8% in the past year. i don't think that is very strong, susan will disagree with me. the impact of the report, interest rate, 10 year treasury yield going up 3.2%. as for the market going nowhere, stocks will be down at "the opening bell" following a 200 point lost. a muted response to the jobs number so far.

i will pass judgment on sheryl sandberg.sed to be the adult in the room the reorganizes facebook. what can she do? >> and inspiring individual who has written on personal loss and gender equality in the workplace, will go down in history as one of the most dangerous, damaging executives. stuart: what has she done to facebook? >> you heard the term lipstick on a pig. mark zuckerberg and sheryl sandberg are lipstick on cancer. this has been an organization that is trafficked in content or enabled content after cleansing. they have teams depressed. this is a company that has run unfettered and killed other companies with a completed because it refuses to screen content, does anything that gets in the way of its supernova business model has threatened democracies and elections. if these individuals weren't so likable they would have been out a long time ago and district attorneys would be talking about bringing charges of criminal negligence. this management team will go down in history as one of the most dangerous and damaging

move mark zuckerberg to chairman and bring some serious -- >> i thought that's sheryl sandberg's rolen out promoting books and politics and everything else. not paying that much attention to facebook. they brought in the prime minister from the uk as their policy officer he is not a technician they think that ai is going to solve the problem. >> do you think the relationship between sheryl sandberg and mark zuckerberg which has always been very close -- >> it's very close still yeah and she's a wonderful leader and a very, very intelligent lady, but she's not the person to solve the problem they're facing right now. the technology problem look the man who invented the internet is launching enrupt it's a new messenger service that can't be hacked and is going to disrupt facebook. >> coca-cola just out with earnings sara eisen is here she has the numbers. >> it's a strong quarter just to recap here coca-cola beat on the bottom line beat on the top line reporting -- here's the revenue beat $8.245 billion the main highlight here is organic revenue growth which is the industry metric, up 6

control over this company who is ill prepared to deal with some of the -- >> you don't think sheryl sandbergaying to him, hey, mark, this is what we should do and he was saying we have control of the cannot -- >> no, i don't they don't think about it at all. they're so non-reflective it's a miracle they can see in the mirrors in silicon valley. they're like vampires. they don't reflect anything. >> all the stocks we brt up have one thing in common. they're all publicly traded. in the world of raising money it's very different for a public company to do it versus a private company. >> sure. >> does this ethics proposal carry over into how these private companies at early stages also try to raise their ethical profile and how did they do it differently than public companies if at all? >> i will a really interesting interview with the woman who is a lawyer for google in the early days and she explained how you create the pillars of your creation if you put things around viralty you're going to get fake news, if you put it around relevance and truthfulness you get a different outcome. they've be

in fact i, you know, i've been in touch with him and sheryl sandberg and so on.le is, i think he has lost his way. he is doing damage to the world now. facebook has sold its soul. it has been gathering data, unimaginable. they are obsessed with gathering information and selling it. they're not concerned enough about the protection of the consumers. it is money, money, money. i used to be a big fan of zuck. i exchanged many emails through him and executives trying to guide them through this thing. they keep making excuses and keep lying and we have this disaster that is happening. stuart: you used a expression that they keep lying. that is strong stuff. >> read the interview from the founder of instagram. one of the reasons he left the company made him lie to european regulators. they keep coming up with apologies and excuses, doing it again and again. the company is obsessed with gathering data. mark zuckerberg is becoming big brother the way he is going. he has to wake up and realize he is off track. he better do something about it. otherwise his legacy will be

here's what sheryl sandberg of facebook had to say.o it appears as if they are getting more sophisticated and they don't have a political preference. what we see is the russians are looking for every opportunity, regardless of party, regardless of whether or not it applies to the election, to continue their pervasive efforts to undermine our fundamental values. the bbc‘s security correspondent gordon corera was the first to break the news that the us intelligence community was expecting russia to interfere in the midterms. the russians are employing very clever techniques. techniques of hybrid warfare, below the threshold of war, employing a wide range of cyber hacking, cyber espionage, social media. these are challenges which cross boundaries for the us government and us intelligence community. for instance, the cia and nsa are charged with dealing with foreign challenges and threats — and the fbi domestically. but this is something which crosses that boundary. i think there is a problem forthe us, institutionally and bureaucratically

sheryl sandberg says his appearance was a mistake.do you think the issue might be free speech? i doubt it. but that is politics tod