this is about 15 minutes. >> the agitators' daughter is the name of the book and sheryll cashin as the author and the professor of law at georgetown university. who is the agitator? >> my dad, dr. john, jr. may he rest in peace he passed this last year. >> what kind of agitator was he? >> am i data found it an independent space party in alabama when the regular party was dominated by george wallace in the dixiecrats. despite being a dentist and a two-time valedictorian his abdication was agitation and he poured hundreds of thousands of dollars of his own many in the 60's mind you and the early 70's into this political party so that alabama could vote for lyndon johnson and the newly registered black voters would have people to vote for and couldn't just go to but also run for office said that as who's lifework and he was very much committed to recapturing the greatness of african-americans in terms of political participation and he was in the area of construction because his grandfather had been a reconstruction legislator and he grew up hearing about his grandfather while he was comin

. >> just a short conversation with george on professor sheryll cashin about her second book, "the agitators' daughter a memoir of four generations of an extraordinary african american family." by the way, booktv covered the professor earlier on this book and it's about one hour in length. you can go to booktv.org and type in her name and you can watch the entire hour. thanks for being with us. >> sarah gordon talks about religious cases in history that have transformed the law of the country and dominated protection in the constitution. this interview part of the college series recorded at the university of pennsylvania. it's about 20 units. >> university professor sarah gordon, the spirit of the law is her most recent book. what do you mean when you talk about the old constitutional role and the new constitutional world when it comes to religion? >> for most of the nation's history with the states rather than the federal government that controlled access to the religious worship and organizations and so on. in the early decades that began to shift as the supreme court applied then national