and shibley telhami, the anwar sadat professor of peace and development at the university of maryland, senior fellow at the brookings institution, and author of the book "the world through arab eyes." gentlemen, welcome back to the "newshour". >> pleasure. >> ifill: so we have talked about this before. dennis ross, you've certainly been on the other side of the negotiating table before. does this cease fire seem real to you? >> it does seem real to me because i think both sides really want this to be over. neither side knew, at this point, that there was much more that could be gained and they each saw the price they were paying was one that was going to continue to go up. we can look at it as a price not being equal to the two sides but how does each side evaluate those costs? i think for the israelis, they had destroyed the tunnels. if they band to go in and stop the mortars, they would have to go in on the ground again and take over gaza, which was too high a price to pay. they achieved what they were going to achieve militarily. for hamas, if you look at the rockets they had left,