you play shiloc. was shakes speer anti-semitic -- >> in my opinion no, he wasn't. that was 400 years ago. there's a lot of interpretations of the play. to me, i think there's anti-semitism in the play, of course, but i also think shiloc is also a blatant cry against prejudice in some ways, when you think before what they do to this person because he's a jew. how he reacts to it, and what he's become. what he's made into. >> do you think about it a lot. how i'm going to -- how i view him? do you have to like him? >> well, yeah, i mean -- you know, you don't -- you first of all, you think of anybody you're playing as a human being, and what his needs are, what drives him. why he is where he is and what he's doing. these are the things you focus on. and in that point of view, you are -- as far as i'm concerned, i'm looking at the play through shiloc's point of view, and he's defiant. he's defiant in the face of prejudice. he defies it. that's what i love about the character. you. >> like playing shakespeer? >> i love playing shakespeare, i do. >> larry: i saw another