shimizu. you are not only the dean of arts at uc santa cruz. you're a film scholar and your past work has focused a lot on the empowerment of women, especially women of color. so why did you decide to make a film about the legacy of the japanese-american intern? experience i feel so lucky to be alive to make this film. it's the 80th anniversary of executive order 9066. which incarcerated 120,000 japanese americans in this country. i interviewed my father-in-law and my aunt-in-law about their experiences noticing that the legacy of family incarceration continues to be grappled with today by today by their descendants, and i want to put them conversation together because 80 years and of course a lot of films had been made on the topic, but there is a certain aspect that you felt had not been explored in depth, right? and what was that that you wanted to dive into i really wanted to ask japanese-americans. you know, who are who have the highest rate of out marriages for example among asian americ