. >> rose: shimon peres didn't have that kind of experience and he was the first person you went to see after you were elected. >> yes, yes. i-- he is a sort of a mentor in ways. he encouraged me for years now to go into politics. telling me put your money your mouth is. and so i went to him after the election. and i said okay, give me one piece of advice. and he gave me actually two. he said first you always insulted by.ou want to be he says if somebody insults you this doesn't mean you have to be insultedment make sure he's important enough for you to be insulted. and this was very good advice. >> rose: or as franklin roosevelt said, i loved every one of my enemies because the enemies hi made pleased me because i knew i was doing something against their interests. >> fantastic. and the other thing he said to me, he said listen, small changes and great changes takes the same effort. go for the big ones. just go and do something. >> rose: one question about israeli politics today, i mean and we've seen the far right parties and religious parties and different parties. and yet we see cen