i'm also developing a book proposal to look at leadership in the ir and shin fain throughout the 30 years of the conflict, there were some fantastic canonical studies or an overviews of the troubles, there were some excellent themed works on the trouble, so i've been reading one at the moment, thomas lee, he's... on the intelligence war throughout the conflict, but there's no study of leadership in that period, and because i think it's so critical to the transformation of the conflict, it feels like a really rich theme to explore. i'm also working on another couple of novels that one in particular, i want to revert back to looking at how the troubles impacted in the united kingdom. there's a case, it's pretty much forgotten now of guy called kenneth lennon, who was a special branch tout and informant giving information in 1974, it had got. too much for him, he was having a bit of a breakdown and starting to tell people, which i think, and next thing he's his paul dead body was found in a lane near gatwick airport in 1974, and you think, well, obviously the ira caught out with him, he was

three republicans in room and the first item on the agenda is the split, but if we look at what shin fain accomplished over the course of the troubles, i mean that's extraordinary to affect that transformation while maintaining organizational coherence, and one i'm finding it very interesting to write about it, i mean a most recent academic article in small worlds and insurgencies is called was jerry. as a transformational leader, but i think even more importantly, if we look at what the organization did and and look at that and academically, we can start to draw truths that we can then say, well, what can we learn from how leadership was and followership were practiced in this conflict that we can usefully and productively and progressively apply to conflicts that are still with us, we really only need to take a very cursory look at the world to see the conflict is on the rice, there was something that we had talked about earlier which really give me uh food from thought was the kettle golden incent where he brought johnson over and you examined the difference between you know the leader

we know that conversations were happening between shin fain and fienna foil in the republic. so what interests me i suppose is this counter narrative, because on the one level it's one of the most appalling periods in an appalling conflict, and yet there's this below the surface narrative go... on which actually becomes part a component part of what becomes the peace process in the 90s, so those reverse directions of travel are what really interest me and it's that it's that tension, it's that's what i'm trying to capture in the new novel, i'm just at the back end of finessing the writing and hopefully that'll come to publication next year. so what are we expecting from you in the future? what have you got your eye set on the horizon? okay, well there's several projects, one i'm working on another article about the inla, i mean the article i got under consideration at the moment ends in 1992 when the provisional ira move against another splinter group from inla called the iplo, the irish people's liberation organization, but internal descension continued to characterize the i

i'm also developing. a book proposal to look at leadership in the ira and shin fain throughout the 30 years of the conflict. there were some fantastic canonical studies or an overviews of the troubles. there are some excellent themed works on the troubles. i've been reading one at the moment, thomas lee his book on the intelligence war throughout the conflict, but there's no study of leadership in that period, and because i think it's so critical to the transformation of the conflict, it feels like a really rich theme to explore. i'm also working on another couple of novels that one in particular i want to revert back to looking at how the troubles impacted in the united kingdom. there's a case it's pretty much forgotten now of guy called kenneth lennon who was a special branch tout and informant giving information in 1974. it had got too much for him, he was having a bit of a breakdown and starting to tell people, which i think, and next thing he's his poor dead body was found in a lane near gatwick airport in 1974 and you think, well obviously the ira caught out with him, he was at

between jerry adams and john hume of the sdlp, we know that conversations were happening between shin fain and fienna foil in the republic, so what interest me as pose is this counter narrative cuuse on the one level it's one of the most appalling periods in an appalling conflict and yet there's this below the surface narrative going on which actually becomes part a component part of what becomes the peace process in the 90s, so those reverse directions of travel are what really interest me and it's that it's that tension, it's that's what i'm trying to capture in the new novel, i'm just at the back end of finessing the writing and hopefully that will come to publication next year. so what are we expecting from you in the future? what have you got your ey set on the horizon? okay, well there's several projects, one, i'm working on another article about the inla, mean the article i've got under consideration at the moment ends in 19. '92 when the provisional ira moved against another splinter group from inla called the iplo, the irish people's liberation organization, but internal descensio