american anti china forces and smear china's efforts to oppose terrorism and fight extremism in shin jang in the early. joining me now the co-author of the report from the australian strategic policy institute dr james lybrel dr leveled wacom it's good to have you on the program with us now the chinese government has said that this report has no factual basis but i'd like to ask you what evidence did you use to arrive at the conclusions that you have in the report. well what we spent. team research is bending over 3 and a half months collecting numerous data points easing the chinese government's media reports as well as documents available wildly available locally available on the chinese internet we also he said light imagery to to examine some of these factories and we also collaborated with the washington post for some on the ground reporting particularly around the conditions at the top long factory in qingdao but you have basically a situation in which the trying his government is sending we girls ought to work in factories in other provinces in china what you're calling that a forc