lord shinkwin passionately opposed the idea.crimination right up to birth, but we are in practice saying to anyone who is born with a disability that they somehow escaped the net. it is tragic that despite the immense sacrifices of my grandparents�* generation who fought and died in the war that the eugenicist poison that informed adolf hitler's aktion ta euthanasia programme against disabled human beings is now informing government policy and being imposed on the people of northern ireland. what we are talking about here today is about the provision, legal provision, of services which are locally accessible to women and girls who need them. it's part of an ongoing debate between those of us who believe that women and girls are capable and have the right to make informed choices about their reproductive health informed by health practitioners who wish to guarantee their safety and those who do not. and i have to say to the noble lord, lord shinkwin, there was much that i took exception to in his speech. today, i do not have time