we have a two-price system for shirg. we pay domestic producers roughly twice the world price and those that consume sugar are upset about that. they don't like paying twice the price. they are trying to get down to the world price. i don't blame them. it is a perfect example of what you do when you screw around. i'm the only one old enough to remember when hi dad was in price of controls under nixon. it screwed things up terribly. i'm worried we will have it in healthcare and screwed up price system and i'm extremely worried. this sugar thing is an objective lesson. neil: you are referring to -- what do you think? >> price controls are coming in gasoline probably, energy. pause you see what they want to do with regulating. the commodities markets and keeping out speculators. this is the perfect example of how government policy can destroy market pricing. for a commodity that everybody uses. neil: i don't think they have anything to do with it. >> they keep the art of the price of should go are artificially elevated for f