shirley ann jackson. and andrea mitchell.king since fife this morning -- since five this morning too. >> how are you? >> i bet you every single person here has been up since five. >> i dressed based on what andrea had on. >> you saw her on tv, and then you said, oh -- that was clever. you're not a rhodes scholar for anything. [laughter] >> wow. >> 4:30 wakeup for morning joe. >> with oh, my gosh. so you get up at 4:30 every day -- >> not every day. >> many days. >> what time do you get up, shirley? >> 4:30 to 5. >> i'm the late riser, 5 to 5:30. >> and then you work, how late do you work straight through? typically. i guess every day is different. >> when you're doing the today program, you have to be there, the last one out at night. especially secretary clinton is traveling right now, so there were late developments and early developments as well. so i'm there til 10 or 11. >> wow. >> and, you know, i can go out and get something to eat and come back. >> so for the two people in america that don't know andrea mitchell -- [l