, shirley ann jackson, and joins me now.into effect on. e sequester, among those testifying, shirley ann jackson, and joins me now. welcome. you're no stranker to washington. born and raised here and former head of the nuclear regulatory commission. what are your big concerns about science and technology and the effects of the sequester if it goes in to effect? >> the big concerns are these. science and technology and the basic research that under girds it have been the the basis of over 50% of our gdp growth for 50 years. but the things we take for granted today are based on research that occurred over a 10, 20, 30 year period, even 50 years. and so one has to understand the source of idea generation. secondly, one has to have human talent. and that stall letalent is supp fellowships that come out of federal support. if the sequester occurs and occurs in a blunt way that can with devastating effects on research programs at universities all across the country. not to mention impacts on some aspects of financial aid. >> just in your example,