>> wolf, the late great shirley chisholm, the first black candidate to run for president in 1972 saidt at the table, bring a folding chair. those women of color had their folding chair. it's good there's diversity to be able to talk to the candidate and say, look, this is what's happening and this is what's needed or this is not what's needed. especially when it comes to the black community that has the highest numbers of negatives in almost every category. and when you look at those who are on medicaid, look at the numbers, women, primarily minority women, women of color, so they brought this issue to the table at a time when there are challenges to roe v. wade. and it needed to be done. so he could really see what was on the table to see all parts, all parts of the spectrum on this very sensitive and controversial topic. >> you think -- >> you know, wolf -- >> go ahead, jeffrey. >> you know, what's so interesting about what's going on now is we're seeing the stakes of the 2020 election. the republican party is moving right abortion. no more exceptions for rape, no more exceptions fo